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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:31 pm 
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Hi all.

Here is the latest Space Wolves list version for perusal and play-test.

It incorporates all changes from the Codex changes to trial listed here: barring the Tactical formation's changes (SW's don't have Tacticals and they already had the Land Raider upgrade). It also includes:

- Absorption of the Crusaders upgrade into a single Land Raiders upgrade and adjusted the pertinent parent formations accordingly
- Re-wording of the Great Company's units contents.
- Addition of text 'Determine the number of Rhinos needed after all upgrades have been purchased' in the Space Wolves transports rule

I'd love to get any playtest feedback regarding these changes if anyone is keen to help out. Thanks guys. :)

Space Wolves v2.4

EDIT - All pages now combined into single document. Again apologies for the stuff up.

SW v2.4 PDF


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:51 pm 
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Care to rename "Great Company" into "Great Pack"? :)
I still see the Space Wolves army as ONE Great Company and not as several Great Companies.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:27 pm 
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:D Nope, sorry BL ;)


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:03 pm 
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Then your command structure makes no sense fluff wise as each Great Company is led by a Wolf Lord and the Great Wolf is the Supreme Commander of the Chapter.
In your list each Great Company is led by a mere Battle Leader and the Chapter by a Wolf Lord.

But apart form this fluff/naming issue i really like the look of this list and it also seems to play quite wolfy :)

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:18 pm 
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Except you buy the Wolf Lord upgrade to replace a Battle Leader so the Wolf Lord can be placed anywhere in the army that can buy a hero. It's designed to let the player have flexibility with their Wolf Lord. Even Ragnar hangs out with his Blood Claws in a fight sometimes. :)

Remember the title is an abstraction of the fighting bulk of the company (up to 50 men) but as SWs are generally larger in number you can simulate either one GC or multiple.


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Sure but the Supreme Commander usually is the Great Wolf (or Bjorn :) ) as in the Codex Astartes list the Supreme Commander usually* is the Chapter Master and not a mere Captain.

*at least it seems so from an army building point of view with the fluff in mind.

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BlackLegion wrote:
Sure but the Supreme Commander usually is the Great Wolf (or Bjorn :) ) as in the Codex Astartes list the Supreme Commander usually* is the Chapter Master and not a mere Captain.

That's not exactly gospel though. Even a 1st company captain could be supreme commander depending on how his role in the battle is defined and how an Op is planned. Again, it's an abstraction not a strict definition by any means. I shudder to think I'm about to use this analogy but I would imagine the Dark Angels Deathwing captain would be a prime candidate as a SC.... (I feel dirty now) :D


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Dobbsy, did the codex use to have unit entries for things like the terminators or the LR Crusaders? As it stands there are not stat's for either, or no guidance as to where a player would go to find said stats?


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Sorry I just realised I haven't included the unit data sheets :( I'll sort it out!


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:00 pm 
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Actually does anyone know how to combine a pdf from MS publisher with a pdf from MS Word??? The list is MSP and the refs are MSW.


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Well, you could import the word into publisher and re-export? Never had a full copy of acrobat so can't really advise on that....


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Oh man that's a messy prospect! Publisher is such a PITA.

I'll have to get back to this when I'm not falling asleep. :D In the meantime, the reference sheet doc is under the main list attachment. Sorry for the annoying separation of the two.


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Can't you just copy/paste from word to publisher and them export as pdf?

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Have to admit that a formation called a "Great Company" is a bit jarring, given that they are bigger than regular Marine companies, and my Marine 3k armies are usually about one company + vehicles.


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*pop gone* ;)

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