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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 6:48 pm 
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One more thing, I would like to warn against the NZ or Australian groups breaking out. Epic France is unique the the bulk of the community in that they speak FRENCH. The rest of us speak (for better or worse) English, and as such as better off working together as a whole.

EpicUK isn't an alternative to the NetERC as their missions are completely different. EpicUK covers possibly the most densely populated area of Epic players in the world and as such have unique abilities and demands on them that IMO make for a good justification to 'do their own thing'. But don't think for a minute that that they don't use the resources that this site produces.

Now if, for example, NZ players, or Tennessee players for that matter, wanted to create their own group because there were dozens upon dozens of players who regularly met and wanted progress on certain lists, they should go and do it. But Tactical Wargames is a perfect site for bridging cultural and geographical barriers for the overall development of the game of Epic Armageddon and no other site can or will replicate that.

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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 7:37 pm 
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Moscovian wrote:
With the exception of the Army List compendium and replacing Hena (and maybe Chroma), what else is outstanding from the NetERC?


I would think that the Army List Compendium would be the single most important thing the NetERC could do. The FAQ is also very important, but I actually think the Compendium would add much needed legitimacy to it. ("See here's it says in this FAQ I found on a random webpage" right...)

I'm trying to build an Epic community in Oslo, and it's slow going. I'm not saying that it would take off like a rocket with the Compendium, but I think it would help.


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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 9:44 pm 
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Just wanted to throw in an opinion from a new player. I picked up Epic fairly recently, and immediately found great difficulty in trying to figure out how to actually begin. Searching the internet for assistance kept pointing me back to Tactical Command, but it was initially very difficult wading through all of the information. While each of the sub-forums have multiple threads with lists posted, it was difficult to find which ones had actually been tested and were ready for play. It wasn't until the "Draft 2010" threads appeared that I was actually able to have some sort of 'formal' document listing the different stages of list development. It wasn't until I had such a paper that I was able to actually convince any of my friends to try it out. Since then, about half a dozen of them have played, and we regularly play Epic about once a week.

The lack of a coherent army book (or in my case, before the Drafts appeared) is in my experience a significant barrier to new players.


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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 10:06 pm 
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Moscovian wrote:
With the exception of the Army List compendium and replacing Hena (and maybe Chroma), what else is outstanding from the NetERC?


A website.

It should host the armies book and explain what netEA is, what the netERC and ACs are etc.


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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 12:02 am 
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If anyone takes on a NetERC position, I would want it to be someone that showed they had the time now (not showed it in the distant past) to get things moving. This is not about what you have done and who you are, it is about who is going to get it done now. While you have been a fantastic resource and ambassador for the game in regards to the supplements (literally placed Necrons and Dark Eldar on the map), I do not believe you taking on another 'hat' when you have other outstanding work is a viable solution.

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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 12:26 am 
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Fantastic elsmore

It just shows we have a plethora of skilled and eager people like yourself on board to take our hobby to the next level.

A change is needed and the 'old guard' should be recognized for their achievements, yet ultimately now it is time to let others take the reins.

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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 12:30 am 
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elsmore wrote:
I'm hoping to help out here at some point...So you can see it's all entirely possible. Time is the ever-present issue as we're working hard to build our business, but hopefully I can get the ball rolling sometime this year.

That sounds pretty cool, but I think we should go for simple and soon initially and perhaps work to such better things later, if others are happy with it and you have the time.


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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 3:03 am 
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A website.

It should host the armies book and explain what netEA is, what the netERC and ACs are etc.


+1,000,000 ;D

Even if the army book is not ready, we can still get a simple site up and link to the draft docs.

I can do this in about 30mins if the NetERC wants me too. (Then use elsmore's skills to get it looking pro when he gets the time.)

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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 3:38 am 
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I'm curious, is there a reason why the NetERC has to be just 3 people? Couldn't it be 4-5 or whatever and so you only need majority to agree on something etc for efficient rulings etc. That way you have some redundancy built in in times of absences.

Also, I understand a small group would control things better with less argument, and I like that, but couldn't there be "assistants" to the NetERC as well, that could perhaps help pick up the slack in times of need?

Perhaps NetERC make rules/policy etc and the assistants get it online for them or whatever or help out when they aren't available? Assistants could be keen folk with small moderator powers for editing etc and, shall we say, "have no life" (like me - not specifically putting myself forward here btw):D and are usually always around (here daily etc) to get things up in a speedier manner.

Anyway just an idea.


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Dobbsy,
I proposed a larger group in the past, but the argument against it was that it would have its own problems, chiefly quorums for decisions, lengthening the time for decisions, etc. I can see that being the case. I believe the 3 person size of the group was to make it small enough to be efficient. Unfortunately you are seeing the confluence of real life forces hitting three people. Odds were it was bound to happen at some point.

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I do not believe you taking on another 'hat' when you have other outstanding work is a viable solution.

On this you are 100% correct, but the offer is there if no other solution presents itself.

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FYI I managed to pawn off the last of my list responsibilities onto Dave (the Squats), so I'm clear.

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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 4:33 am 
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 4:51 am 
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Note how I have not placed myself as an option? I am too busy to commit. From what you state, so are you. Nothing more should be taken from that.

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I think the idea of a seperate website that hosts the "Face" of epic would be a great idea, somewhere first time users can jump onto and just interact with whats been produced and in a filed and sorted manner, in a essence the best of tac cooms in a "retail" type format, then if people want to jump into the forums and get involed on the tac com side of things they can, otherwise they have a user friendly site that provides them with a set formta t for epic that they can get the ball rolling with for there gaming and such.
Im more than happy to help with anything that maybe required in this regard, as i currently have nothing but free time up my sleeve, weather its just mundane filing type work or anything else within my means.
but lets get it started and see more action and less deliberating, talk is good, results are better, as it was mentioned ealier inthe htread better to have something simple and underway people can log onto for now and then have it revamped at a later date.

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