Chroma has provided a handy batrep recording sheet for just that purpose. I'll try and find the link for you Ulrik.


As most ACs all have different approaches to one another that's a fair approach IMO. Some prefer to let others play their list to gain objective feedback or it might look overbearing or the like; others like to get involved completely; others do a bit of both. <shrug> Just because they may not do something at the pace we would like doesn't mean they need to get tossed on their ear.


Sure and that's a good thing, but one person's feedback is still minimal feedback. Hardly much to base a list change on is it? They may look like excuses to some but to others (particularly the AC in this case) they may not share your view so discussion continues.


And that's my point - player apathy. Is it any wonder lists take so log to finalise? It sometimes seems some want lists to be done overnight but put in no effort to help, themselves. In reality a batrep is a bit of writing on the forum with possible pictures that might take you an hour or so and helps flesh out an army that you may like to play. And c'mon Frogbear, you know from your own experience that a fully converted and well painted miniature takes hours, perhaps days - I even offered the minis! Is that not a fair trade for a bit of effort on a simple batrep...?

I think we've gone a little off-topic. I'm just asking about the netERC, not the ACs at this stage. Most lists seem to have fairly regular attending ACs at the moment, and those lists that have been abandoned are generally being replaced by the "free market".

It's the netERC I'm worried about, as it seems to have effectively ceased to exist.

Sorry Zombo.

Ulrik - here you go:
http://www.tacticalwargames.net/taccmd/download/file.php?id=140

Let's just wait till school is out before we declare the NetERC null & void, shall we? Give people a chance to catch up, breathe, and get back into the swing of things. I think we'll be fine and all this will be water under the bridge by summer.

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I agree. I actually think Chroma won't return, which means he'll need replacing. My gut is telling me Neal is a little strung out and may step down, although he has said nothing. All these things need to be dealt with. I just think, given the volunteer status of the NetERC and the friendships we've formed on here, that they deserve some time to sort things out. Dobbsy was right when he said something to the effect of it not costing us anything.

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It's a dog-eat-dog world, and I've got my Milkbone underwear on.

At this point I'd say it's Neal's choice as to where to go next, and I'm happy to give him the time to make up his mind as to what the process will be.

Neal is an extremely capable member of the community, and if he's got other pressures working on him right now it's only understandable.

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Incorrect!

Posts, general commitment and attendance at these boards is quite low from what they were in the days of 9.2.1 and Tau discussions. If anything, the contribution to this site has waned significantly. Apart from this discussion, I (and many others for that fact) really have not found anything to contribute to and find other sites and games to play.

I suspect that the only reason we still have the small community at this stage is because of the investment people have placed into the game itself. That in itself will not last forever.

Defending the state of where we are and making excuses (the same that have existed for several years now) is really not getting us anywhere. There is no point to all this if there is no behaviour change. How long has it been that an army book and central site has been in the works? Volunteer does not mean we make excuses and things take time - not when there is a plethora of other people willing and waiting to take it to the next level.

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Agreed.

its interesting reading this thread in relation to making forward progress.
then you skip back a few years and read threads in related matters and it all just sounds excatly the same with still no forward motion. For things to proceed forward it would appear change is ineveitable, and the counter to that is that people seem tofear change.
Maybe a NetANZ isnt a bad idea , look at france it worked for them, and theres lots of benefits and downsides to it aswell, but at the end of the day after all the forums and threads are dead and the NetERC disbands or what ever may come, people will still have there own play groups that use there own rules / lits/ house rules, so the only one real major aspect of the community other than having international trade options is to try and adhere a international rules system, and as far as i can see there isnt one.
Just my 2 cents worth, but id really love to see a one rules system / armies lists for all , it would make reading battle reps, and other feed back more revelant and i think it would do alot for the game to have everyone on the same page.

Tim NZ

I'd also like to see a unified direction with regards army lists. One of the things that's been a personal annoyance over the years is a lack of consistency with regard "40Kification". It seems like the move is towards making Epic an extension of 40K, with list updates dependent on the latest Codex. But this criteria isn't used universally. Either approach is fine with me (though I have a preference for not following 40K), but I feel a single direction is important. Other lists can be listed as either Archaic (if a latest and greatest position is taken) or Codexed (if a more 'old skool' position).

Just my thoughts.

Morgan Vening

I am going to say it and get it out of the way.

For what it's worth, the people that I feel are most suitable for any replacement on the NetERC are as follows in no particular order of preference:
- Evil & Chaos
- Markconz
- Zombocom
- Simulated Knave

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Agreed. So a NetANZ only drives this further from possibility correct?

EpicFR is widely used in France, they have their own forums etc and a large community. I could say more in response to 'pointless, silly and slightly arrogant' but I'll leave it

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