Actually, it should be "end of its action."

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I would replace the word "chooses" with "may choose" on steps 2) and 3).

But I agree with the others that it seems to cover the questions

Actually, it should be "end of its action."

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I don't like the use of the term action here. It's unclear whether it is equivalent to activation. If it is, it would indicate that you could 'stop' at the end of the first move inside the enemy ZoC. This is tantamount to moving nto an enemy ZoC in the first place. My suggestipn is to make it in accordance w/ Zombo's suggestion, using 'move' instead of 'action'.

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Added to the FAQ:

2.2.4
Q: If a unit with CC First Strike kills the unit in base contact, can it still use CC for its regular attack?
A: No. The unit would use FF value. First Strike hits are resolved completely before any other attacks are made. If units in base contact are removed, there would be no CC targets when determining the remaining attacks.

Another:

2.1.13
Q: The skimmer FAQ says units forcing firefight are still in base contact. The war engine rules say a war engine may only apply CC attacks to units in base contact. So, what happens if a war engine skimmer forces a firefight against units in base contact? Does it lose the ability to apply FF attacks because the units are still in base contact?
A: A war engine skimmer can apply FF hits to units which it has forced into a firefight. The basic WE rules don't take into account special abilities like Skimmer (or anything else). They do not make a technical distinction between Base Contact and CC because, in the absence of special rules, they are equivalent. This was an oversight, though, and not intended to negate the abilities of skimmer war engines.

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Also, since we didn't finalize this in 2010, updated the thread title.

Here's one to potentially add to the FAQ.





I've not been able to find 'tunneler' in the Epic rules, the Krieg book or the recent FAQ. It's not clear how this is supposed to operate, and whether its similarities to drop pods are that it is a marker that can be left behind or whether it actually has to use some form of planetfall rules to get to where it's going.
Is a subterranean transport that can appear in any turn at any location like a landa or more like a teleporting unit?

p168 in EA, in the collector's models section. Tunnelers wasn't part of the official rules, but the rule is pretty unchanged from the form there, apart from the Epic: Xenos project, IIRC.

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Thanks Spectrar - but since that isn't part of any rule book I have do you have a link or could you please quote it?
And memo to army champs - pretty please put all the special rules that aren't in EA Compendium in the army list books

I'll make sure to add it to future players packs Matt
Didn't think of it earlier.

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Thanks. In the meantime could you post the rule? I'm trying some army ideas and don't know what these engineers do

That's the rule as it's written in the original rule book.

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It's a shame the NetERC are so apathetic to a consideration on a change for the above rule.

It shows the arrogance of the NetERC that an idea that is proposed is not even considered in a discussion and that they push ahead with this. It stinks of an egotistical small insular group.

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A - I don't think a change is off the table
B - The original wording has been used for years in the Krieg list without issue.
C - Don't be so rude.

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Thanks for posting that Steve.

So it needs to have its location pre-planned and arrival turn preset. Looking at it practically, any opponent who hears 'Arrival in Turn 3' will know it's very likely to appear right near their Blitz objective, and for it to arrive in turn 2 it will have to be on my side of the table and might as well have started the game on board as an activation.

Definitely not the sort of flexibility in behind enemy lines attacking I was hoping for 300pts, but never mind I'll take something else. Thanks for clarifying.

Being ignored for a workable proposal (not even a discussion seems to have been entertained) is rude in itself and I offer no apology for being so blunt.

At what point are people going to stop being so nice and state the fact that the NetERC have been dragging their feet for years now with no recourse or accountability?

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