Few more questions after the 4 battles of last week-end

- When picking more than 1 battle fortress in an ork army, do they form a mob ? IE pick 3 skullhamma, build a mob of skullhamme ?

- Is it possible to move backward ? Nothing was written about this in rules, only in praetorian that can move backward at half speed. What about titans/vehicles ?

Thanks in advance for your help,

Vincent

We always use this rule (move backwards at half speed) as a house rule
for all vehicles

It is ridiculous to spend 4 turns for turning in the opposit direction


you mean more than 1 battlefortress for 1 clan right
if yes I would say they form a mob

Yes I meant for 1 clan, this despite they are independent, they could form a mob. One the same way, several stormboyz attached to the same clan could form a mob.

well they could form a mob for the purpose of activation/shooting
but without 6cm coherency

Without the 6cm coherency ? But if it's a mob, they have to keep 6cm coherency. "Independent" means they do not need to be within 10cm from a nob to receive order

Hmm sure you are right

Yeah, Independant has no effect on the mob rule, so yes, they would form a mob.

I've used a mob of 3 Skullhammers to transport my Goff clan before (and used battlewagons for the Nobz).

As for moving backwards, except for those units that have a limitation like titans/praetorians, we've just assumed that a unit could turn around and make a full move to the rear. Does mean you have to face the wrong way though. A 50% reverse move seems reasonable.

In the small tournament where I went, I was surprises when my opponent told me "you are not allowed to move backward with your vehicles". .I replaied "did the enginners lose the rear gear in the 40th millenium, this sounds strange". 50% move limitation when moving backward seems OK.

OK about the independent units forming a Mob, we thought battlefortresses could not form a mob together.

So this 45 degrees/turn turning has past by?

so you need 50% movement for turning backwards and then move the other half right?
sounds good to me

but for a retreat it would be better to move backwards and still face the enemy

No Ulric, if you want to move backward with a rhino in advance order, you can move backward up to 12.5cm (50% of base movement).

For a retreat (of fall back) you have to do your charge movement toward your deployment area, not backward bot toward with vehicle front toward your table edge Retreat/Fall back is not just moving backward, but trying to escape from enemy at full speed

Most units have no restriction on the size or amounts of turns when they move. When a unit finishes its move it can only turn 45 degrees from the direction of travel however. So yes, if you did make a full move backward you would need to be facing away from the enemy. However, there is nothing stopping most units from doing a big S (or a U turn or just drive in a big circle ).......

No Scream I meant a controlled retreat, still firing at the enemy while moving backwards
like this:
Thats the way we played it too.

I thought a tank/vehicle(not bike) is restricted to 1 turn per movement at a max. of 45 degrees(this would takes you 4 turns for turning backwards )
but I am referring to the old SM/TL rules
and our english skills were quite low at this time

Titans, Praetorians and aircraft have restrictions on turns (max 90 degrees for first two). Not much else does.

Superb!
So my tanks may do a U-turn without any penalties