We always used Titan Legions as a part of an Imperial army
so most of the time it was a mix of warlords, Imperial guards units,
space marines and knights
It is pretty common for me to face such an force
if playing against my most played opponent


Yes you are right
we always upgraded the SM/TL rules with the NETEPIC rules
I am trying to adapt the way we play to the NETEPIC rules
but it will tkae its time


HH RailG. 20cm/+3/+2/35cm/2/+4/0 (BurstC.)

HH IonC. 20cm/+3/+2/50cm/1/+4/0 (missile Pods)

HH Missile Pods 20cm/+3/+2/50cm/1/+4/0 (missile Pods)

HH TL FusionB. 20cm/+3/+2/50cm/1/+4/0(missile Pods)

all units: size 2/morale+3/break point 1 costs 150 poins

HH TL PlasmaC. 20cm/+3/+2/50cm/2/+3/-2
/50cm/1/+4/0(missile Pods)

HH TL BurstC. 20cm/+3/+2/50cm/4/+4/-1
/50cm/1/+4/0(missile Pods)

all units: size 2/morale+3/break point 1 costs 150 poins

Remora Drone Carrier
Carrier+4 Drones 300 points
brake point : carrier

Drone carrier: 60cm/+3/+1/
/35cm/2/+4/0(BurstC.)
/75cm/1/+4/-1 AA-seeker missile

Drones:120cm/+5(+6fixed)/+2/
/35cm/2/+4/0(BurstC.)
/50cm/1/+4/-1 AA-seeker missile
special: drones
Notes: 2 drones operating
1 protecting TSDC
1 reserve


The drones will intercept any incoming fighters while on escort mission
or try to block incoming shots on +4
or shoot at the closest enemy fighter during advanced

The drone which is protecting the TSDC is always on a escort mission

hope thats all

best regards

ule

I have thought long about the deflector shields,
maybe I have found a solution

e.g. 4 shields +3fixed save

If tha manta is hit make an unmodified +3 save
if it fails its save, it looses one shield and the NEXT shield has to make an unmodified +3 save and so on
seems not too powerfull and not too bad

@Zap please look over the Hammerhead and Tigershark stats
if they are still too confused,
I can rewrite them

thanks for looking

Ulric

The two new HH variants look fine to me. Not sure why there's a need to change secondaries on existing HHs, but I don't have a huge problem if the Tau players like the change. I would probably suggest not having missile pods as secondaries on the HH with missile racks just to avoid confusion though.

I think I'm ok with the Drone carrier, except that any Drone on escort shouldn't be able to also shoot.

I meant if the drone has neither intercept incoming flyers nor blocked incoming shoots
it can shoot in advanced
but maybe you are right and its a bit too good

Its not for making any variant much better or worse
just to have the right secondaries on the HH
but not really important for me

If someone is asking:
I choosed a fixed save for the remora drones to represent thier stealth abillity
I figured tha the "hard-to-hit" abillity seems a bit too powerfull

thanks for looking

Remora stealth drone upgrade:

Every Tau flyer, floater or support craft can be upgraded with 1 or more Remora stealth drones on "escort mission"
50 points/model
The Remora stealth drone will only escort 1 single model per game
and is removed if the flyer ect. is destroyed

What do you think about it?

cheers
ulric

As an upgrade to the Orca it might not be too abusive. No to all the other flyers though....or at least not at that cost.

Maybe upgrade only super heavy Flyers

Not at 50 points. Price for a Tigershark DC would need to be higher and for the AX-1-0 much higher. A fixed price upgrade doesn't work when the value of the upgrade varies according to the value of the unit it is protecting.

Like I said, having them as protection for an Orca might be conceivable and reasonable as it has no major offensive ability and is really there to deliver troops, though seeing the Orca Deepstrikes anyway, perhaps it's not of great use.

Hmm 100 points seems too much to me

But you are right 50 sounds cheap
maybe a support card 2 for 150 points



The shield drone upgrade is working exactly like that 100 points for a det. Fire warriors or 100 for a Boardside battlesuit unit


I see them similar as an escort for heavy flyers/floater


probably yes
But the Remora drones are representing tha Tau´s way of fighting and are excellent models
it would be nice to inlude them in the Tau codex or at least in the "optional rule book"

wait I paint some up

You can put pretty much anything you like in the optionals book. A lot of the stuff in there is fairly marginal already....that's why it's there

Sorry, not up on the fluff, but dont the Remoras need a controller anyway?

Uh ah my arguments are not fluff based.
I do have no clue about the Tau fluff
except the stuff I read in the Tau codex
But the Tau have several drones so the Remora would be a nice addition


Now the Rulebook would be much nicer but you are such a toughie
if we negotiate for Tau stats

I am pretty sensitive about airpower as it can be awfully unbalancing and the Tau are already very strong there. There is probably still some scope for Tau ground forces though.

Are you talking about Vektor Knights?

I have recognized that
In my next Tau game I will give the Tigershark remora drone carrier a try
maybe against Eldar?

Some interesting suggestions here. However I'm afraid these will not go into the Tau army book at this point. The Tau book has been finished for some time, and as mentioned elsewhere, due to practical considerations when layouting, changes like new unit additions are not going to be added to the books one they've been layouted. Otherwise you (well, I) would constantly have to be reworking the layouts to make room for new unit additions and that is extremely bothersome tbh :p

However they ARE very nice models, so by all means get those rules written and playtested, and we'll throw it in the optionals book

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I understand that

I will playtest them
since Zap123 agreed with the Hammerhead variants(hope so)
there is only the tigershark remora drone carrier left
I hope we find a solution ASAP

cheers

ulric