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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:55 pm 
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Chosen - At the moment I wasn't intending to as I viewed the Forlorn Hope as a unproblematic formation - and there are enough actual problems to work through.

I don't think the suggestion was to make any mechanical changes. Just to re-name the units to 'Chosen' and to give them their own datafax.

That's what i did in the Red Corsairs.
Black Legion : Red Corsairs
Chosen renamed to Chaos Terminators
CSMs with Scout renamed to Chosen

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:06 pm 
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My only imput into this would be to try and get this list to 25 point divisibles. If that means buying Raptors at 5 for 200 points, or 2 Rhino for 25 points, then so be it.

Otherwise, the changes appear reasonable.   :agree:




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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:18 pm 
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All looking good so far. I support matching the dreadnought changes from the marine list and that.

Vindicators should be in there, but I would cost them at 35 points, doesn't do any harm to have them and the Predators different prices, it happens elsewhere e.g. the quite variable tank formation in the Krieg list.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:27 pm 
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Quote: (Steve54 @ Dec. 22 2009, 18:40 )

Assault Co - I wasn't aware there were internal issues, regarding 0-x limitations I know they aren't ideal but will approach them case-by-case. I odn't think wholesale changes purely t remove restrictions is warranted.

You're no longer considering changing the army list format to the core-support structure as used by the Red Corsairs (which effectively allows the removal of all of the 0-x limits as 'problem formations' can no longer be spammed without losing access to other 'problem formations') ?

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Dreads - Again just matching up with SM - which seems logical, and following what I thought was a widely accepted change

I believe it is widely accepted... it passed a community vote for the loyalists anyway.

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Chosen - At the moment I wasn't intending to as I viewed the Forlorn Hope as a unproblematic formation - and there are enough actual problems to work through.

could potentially rename the formation to be called 'chosen' as a cosmetic / approachability for newbies thing as Blacklegion says.




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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:30 pm 
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8 Replace Chaos Rhino Stormbolters with Twin Bolters


This worth it? There are many such discrepancies in Epic.

Also wouldn't many BL rhinos be pre-heresy rhinos with twin bolter configuration anyway?

CSM don't use Storm Bolters unless they are recent traitors; the Chaos forge worlds cannot normally make Storm Bolters.




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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:58 pm 
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Agree with all above changes.
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