Haha, no problem   . I really like to think about these things if i have the time. Surely i will come up with more questions and ideas  

@Shermo: The Brass Scorpion has Infiltrators. At least the Red Corsairs version
Note that there are three different Brass Scorpions:
Lesser Brass Scorpion (based on the old Epic model)
Brass Scorpion (based on the Wh40k Apocalypse unit, used in the Red Corsairs list and the other World Eaters list)
Greater Brass Scoropion (based on the Forgeworld model)

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Available in this supplement via the Apocalypse list in the fan section.

As always, these things are under constant review  

Note to self: That reminds me. I will have to make a re-start on the Apocalypse version next week. I still have interested parties who would like to be involved in the design of some of the Khorne Engines.

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I thought I would take the time to answer another one of those quick answer things.

In regards to TRC's question, first off, I think you mean the World Eater Chosen Retinue.     I think this was an oversight. I will have to remove Chosen from the Dreadclaw datafax.  

Somehow in the fluff and representations, the World Eaters lost all their jumpacks (???). How they discarded something that would assist them to get into CC is well beyond me. It was an obvious in-game balance decision for 40K. Seeing I am trying to keep as close to past and present dogma, there are no jump pack troops, however the Chosen fill the role to a certain extent.

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Yes, I know. But right now, the greater brass scorpion has the same movement value as the defiler which doesn't feel right.

It would be fun as a 30cm scuttling monstrosity of doom!

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And at only 150 points! Right TRC?  

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Overcosted at 150

World Eaters - otherwise known as the unlucky marines!

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So I ask this as a scorpion aficianado, but do we really need three flavors of scorpion? Shouldn't there just be a FW Vraks variety and whatever Apocalypse is using? The other can just be a "counts as"?

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I pretend to make scorpions out of the defilers the same way i did for 40k. I think i will be using the scorpions as slaughterfiends.

That is a good point Honda.

It is something that I have thought long and hard about.

I would have no problem taking it out and replacing it with a (vraks) Brass Scorpion formation in the already populated Titan area of the list.

My problem is making a model extinct as the Otter model conversion is bigger and more appropriate - The old model runs around with buzzsaws! No doubt you have faced the same problems with the Tau list...

So do I do something that would make sense and provide me with less problems, or do I look after the fans and make suyre that all their models are usable?

Happy to get advice on this one.  

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@Frogbear: It's a valid concern that you are addressing and I'm not trying to steer this one way or another. I do think that most Epic gamers are pretty easy going regarding "counts as" so even if the physical model looks like a defiler with a pipe cleaner tail stuck on it, if you are clear about what it represents at the beginning of the game, most players I've come across are pretty accomodating.

In 40K, you do run into your WYSIWYG fanatics at the larger scale and if they want to be snobs about that, GW does provide for that kind of stuff. At 6mm, it seems like it becomes less of an issue.

So, your Scorpion model has buzzsaws for arms, but the stats say "dueling Ginsu" cannons, do you run into many people that will make a big deal about that?

And again, it seems like an area for some simplification to me, that doesn't mean it has to go that way.

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Game vs Death Guard completed tonight.

I hasve to update the WoE vs Black Legion thread, and then I will get the Death Guard game up.

Hena: If you are reading this, I will be placing some feedback on your list within the next day or so.

I also have some ideas from TRC which I will be posting up as well as getting to all those questions from pg 17 of this thread.

Till then......Cheers all.  

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Total Playtests: 17 Games

The latest game (vs Black Legion) allowed someone other than me to once again use the World Eaters. It was good to test the force again as an opponent rather than a player. The force that TRC took did not have a drop or teleport element which was a shame as that is the WoE strength.

Once again the World Eaters were subject to a spate of bad rolls that saw them losing HtH assaults that they themselves initiated. More about that in the battle report.

There were alot of great ideas that were discussed which I will bring up in this list when I get some time along with the other questions I need to answer from TRC and Shermo.

Version 1.x series of Playtests - 8 Games

- vs Black Legion - as an opponent vs TRC    World Eaters V1.3.1
- vs Tau - as a player vs Morgan   World Eaters V1.3
- vs Marines - as a player vs Trog   World Eaters V1.3
- vs Iyanden - as a player vs Blish   World Eaters V1.2
- vs Imperial Guard - as a player vs LeanonRuss  World Eaters v1.2
- vs Imperial Guard - as a player vs LeanonRuss    World Eaters V1.1
- vs Orks - as a player vs TRC   World Eaters V1.1
- vs Tau - as a player vs Dobbsy   World Eaters V1.0

Version 0.9.1 Playtests - 2 Games
- vs Space Marines - as an opponent vs Blish
- vs Eldar - as a player vs LeanonRuss


Version 0.9 Playtests - 3 Games

World Eaters Post Skalathrax - 3 Games
- vs Feral Orks - as a player vs Blish
- vs Orks - as a player vs Blish
- vs Space Marines - as a player vs Drew


World Eaters Heresy/Post Heresy - Held off for V0.9.1 tests


Version 0.8 Playtests - 4 games
- vs Space Marines - as an opponent vs Morgan
- vs Tau - as a player vs Morgan
- vs Eldar - as a player vs Drew
- vs Feral Orks - as a player vs Blish

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