My post wasn't clear.  I was referring to a broken formation losing assault.  ATSKNF doesn't protect against the wipeout.  I was only saying that once broken, they have to withdraw far enough that is not a risk, so they can be driven back.

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Breaking news from Games Day:

Imperial Armour 8 will feature Elysians and Raven Guard versus Orks.

Raven Guard will be getting some sort of drop ship named the 'Storm Eagle Dropship'.

THIS may be the Storm Eagle (currently unconfirmed, conflicting reports say it may be some sort of dropship for the Elysians). By my eye it looks like the 'flying Rhino' that Forgeworld have been threatening to do for years.

Also noted that the Raven Guard are getting some sort of Land Speeder variant associated with their Imperial Armour entry, possibly the Tempest, possibly an entirely new variant.

That's about it that's Epic-relevant.

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Very cool  

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Opinions are firming up on the linked-to vehicle being some sort of skimming Rhino.

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Really, looks more guardish to me (in concept and cockpit). Actually I may be getting the size wrong but how does it hold troops. Or maybe its for Squats!

But yes the rear section is very land speedery. Maybe its a land speeder variant for local heavy lifts?

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The two forks at the front have man-height disembarkation ramps.


Highly unlikely, anti-grav tech is very rare in the Imperium.

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Better picture of the (probable) new Skimmer transport for the Raven Guard early WIP:

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wow i like the idea and the look, sounds cool

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Yep, and they seem to be adapted for assaulting right out of it (compare with Thunderhawk and Land Raider front ramp).

Still, looks a lot more like a guardsy vehicle to me. It's not based on any Marine hull.

To me it looks like a really big Land Speeder.

Check the stubby wings, and spoiler on the back.

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That'd be cool by me.  I could see making the list have 2 foci - planetfall ops and skimmers.

A transport with Skimmer and Planetfall would rock.  I would give up the option of Pods/Deathwind for the ability to drop a force near the enemy, loaded in transports.

Would LV status (due to fragile anti-grav pads or something) balance out Skimmer/Planetfall so you could do a straight Rhino swap?

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The model looks to me like a skimmer with an enclosed cockpit and 2 cargo containers slung under it.

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A little more info:

Basically, it's now confirmed as a Marine concept, not actually a WIP but a mock-up concept.

Described as a Skimmer in conversation, referred to as a Drop Ship in the IA:8 preview pages.

Transport capacity is described as at least ten, maybe fifteen Marines.

No idea as to armour profile, but I feel it won't be suitable for being an LV (it's bigger than a Land Raider).

The pipes on the end of the wings are going to be Lascannons, apparently, so each Storm Eagle will have either 2x Lascannons or one twin Lascannon. So that nixes a straight swap for Rhinos!


FW's concept for the Raven Guard seems to be 'Lots of Skimmers!' as they will be getting a new Skimmer variant possibly not seen before too.

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Even more interesting, then.  Sounds more like a Thunderhawk Lite, then.  Smaller, Skimmer instead of full flight, but still able to planetfall.

AV, 30cm, 4+ (maybe 5+RA if it can Planetfall), FF5, CC6
Lascannons (2x or Twin... whatever)
Skimmer, Planetfall, Transport 3

50 points or so, replacing Rhinos?  75?

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Just read elsewhere: What about Deathstorm DropPods? That would be DropPods which replaces their transport capacity for weapons systems.

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Those are already incorporated into the standard drop pod rules.

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