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[NetEA] Army Compendium - DRAFT - Space Marines

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:24 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:19 pm 
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Dark Angels:  I agree with the consensus that this should still be "Experimental."  There's still a lot of controversy.

Salamanders:  I think these should be included and my opinion is the last version of the list could be "Development" status.  It's a pretty darn good list.

Raven Guard:  Definitely "Experimental" at this point.  I like your re-org.  It's a lot more elegant than my list.  However, it raises a couple of points that need to be ironed out.  One thing that definitely needs to be corrected is adding "plus transport" to the Raven Guard Assault formation.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:48 pm 
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Quote: (nealhunt @ Sep. 21 2009, 14:19 )

Salamanders:  I think these should be included and my opinion is the last version of the list could be "Development" status.  It's a pretty darn good list.

The remaining bone of contention for them is the redeemer (note I have no idea what you have put in as I can't get acrobat to work on this laptop currently and am delaying the hassle of un and reinstalling the bloody thing). If that was sorted satifactoraly two things would happen, I think the normal land raiders could be dropped as an upgrade and only the redeemers be present (to help counts as players) and the list would be finished bar any problems I haven't spotted (and I am often blind when it comes to my own ideas).

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:05 pm 
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Chroma used this stats:

Land Raider Redeemer
Type Speed Armour CC FF
AV 25cm 4+ 6+ 4+
Weapon Range Firepower Notes
2x  Redeemer Flamer 15cm AP3+, Ignores Cover
                   AND (15cm) (Small Arms), EA(+1)
Twin Assault Cannon 30cm AP4+/AT4+ -

NOTES Reinforced Armour, Thick Rear Armour, Transport (may carry 1 Terminator unit OR 2 of the following units: Tactical, Devastator and
Scout)


Actually the Redeemer Flamers correct name is Flamestorm Cannon

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:15 pm 
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I love it :)

This is more than I've been wanting, great work.

Love the Approved/Development/Experimental split btw.

The Redeemer/Crusader stats seem good choices too.




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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:34 pm 
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Quote: (zombocom @ Sep. 21 2009, 17:15 )

I love it :)

I must admit this has put a smile on my face this morning!   :agree:

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:39 pm 
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Here it`s early afternoon :) But i agree. It's very good work :)

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:44 pm 
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looks great. thanks for all the effort you put into this. might i suggest that the next one be the eldar lists since you cannot download them after the crash.
one minor suggestion.
i realize this would be done for the final draft but seeing as that could take a while, could you define all of the army status. meaning instead of just displaying "experimental" or "approved" could you actually define that for everyone.
i only point this out because the whole point of this is to have easier access to army list for newer players, and since this could take a while to get all of them done, having them defined might make it easier for them.


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Quote: (mnb @ Sep. 21 2009, 17:44 )

i realize this would be done for the final draft but seeing as that could take a while, could you define all of the army status. meaning instead of just displaying "experimental" or "approved" could you actually define that for everyone.

This document is just a draft of the Space Marine lists.

The "full" document will have an introductory section defining what the different status markers mean, amongst other NetEA things.

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Am I right in understanding that this is a collation of the different Marine chapters done by individual sub-champions?

If so, and we are approving these things, is there a central authority that makes sure all these lists are balanced and in line with each other. I already see some glaring concerns between lists...

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It would be good to see the Space Wolfs being done as well.

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I would also like to add that the DA list is nowhere near Experimental. It should still be in Development. There are some glaring concerns..

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actually i was wondering about the space wolves also, now that forgeworld is back.





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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:13 am 
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Quote: (frogbear @ Sep. 22 2009, 01:16 )

If so, and we are approving these things, is there a central authority that makes sure all these lists are balanced and in line with each other. I already see some glaring concerns between lists...

The NetERC is the "governing body" of the NetEA Project, but testing and balancing of various lists is done by the Army Champion, in the Space Marines' case: Hena, and the individual Sub-Champions.

Each list in the document is tagged with its current "state" of development:

Approved - Good to go!
Development - Needs some work.
Experimental - Fairly untested.

Concerns you have about the lists should be brought up in the appropriate EA Forum dedicated to the army "broad group".

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I would also like to add that the DA list is nowhere near Experimental. It should still be in Development. There are some glaring concerns..

"Experimental" is "less developed/tested" than "Development".

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