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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:29 am 
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I would go for the 'ink conservation' one myself. It's clearer and tidier, making it easier to read the text.  :)


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:44 am 
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Hehe. I figured this might cause some divided opinions. :laugh:  ???

Pros:
This is a one time opportunity to make NetEpic look as good as possible. Having the ink consumption restriction really limits the possibilities a lot.

Cons:
The ink consumption. Those who do not have access to a professional printer, want to spend money on several cartridges of ink or (in case Primarch decides to put a Raiders style printed version for sale) want to buy a printed version, probably won't print it.
Readability: True that heavy graphics may decrease readability somewhat. This is of course a balance issue, some pages may look busier than others and the sample pages here would be some of the ones with heavy graphic (This is the Ork book so it is supposed to look somewhat busy and slightly chaotic :D ).


It should be noted that the NEtEpic 5.0 documents on which NetEpic Gold is based are also available (or will be) for those who just want the rules and don't care for fancy-schmanzy graphics. I'm not too keen on doing a Gold and "Silver" version of the books as it does require quite a bit of extra work and will slow down the process we've been trying to speed up.

In defense of a heavier graphics version I'd also point out the (in my view) decreasing importance of physical books. The increasing popularity of netbooks (not to mention regular laptops) and with portable and very affordable E-book tablets just taking off, it is easier than ever to take your pdf files with you. Given the choice between a stack of 6-700 pages of home print and the pdf on a netbook I'd say that the second is a bit more handy :)

The final argument is more of a "sales" one: Why make NEtEpic Gold in the first place? Isn't it enough to just have the easily readable Word documents with the rules available? That's all you really need to play the game. Well from "the real world" we all know that technical litterature is usually tremendously boring to look at, but we buy it anyway because we need the contents for our work/education, etc. Would someone who haven't got a clue about philosophy go buy Kant's Critiques when strolling through the bookstore? Probably not. Would the same person pick up a colorfull gossip magazine or comic book or whatever? More likely. NetEpic Gold is eye candy. If you're browsing the net and suddenly come across some free downloadable game called NetEpic I think you're more likely to give it a go if it really captures the imagination in those first 5-10 seconds of looking through the PDF file on your screen. For that purpose I think readablilty and ink conservation becomes secondary issues.

Now this is just my opinion of course, so please keep the input going :)




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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:39 am 
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Oh and Zap: Not much difference. I think. Both files are fairly large due to the high resolution of the images. If the background pics are a pale watermark picture or something more saturated shouldn't make much differece. The main difference would be the drop shadows but I'm not really sure how much that adds to the file size.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:58 pm 
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(in case Primarch decides to put a Raiders style printed version for sale)

For the record, I would gladly buy a Raiders-style version of NetEpic Gold.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:01 pm 
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Quote: (Dwarf Supreme @ Sep. 11 2009, 10:58 )

Quote: (Warmaster Nice @ Sep. 11 2009, 05:44 )

(in case Primarch decides to put a Raiders style printed version for sale)

For the record, I would gladly buy a Raiders-style version of NetEpic Gold.

Hi!

What is a "raider's style" book? Reference?

On a side note, I'm definitely making books, at least for myself. Whether or not I do it for a group of those interested I will decide once the project is finished.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:33 am 
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Hmm, although the rusty background really looks nice, I would prefer readability over eye candy stuff.

Don't get me wrong, it's nice to have a well designed and fancy rulebook, but my priority would be crisp and easy to read text, Illustration should support readability.


can't wait to print it  :O





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Quote: (Warmaster Nice @ Sep. 11 2009, 05:44 )

(in case Primarch decides to put a Raiders style printed version for sale)

For the record, I would gladly buy a Raiders-style version of NetEpic Gold.

Hi!

What is a "raider's style" book? Reference?

On a side note, I'm definitely making books, at least for myself. Whether or not I do it for a group of those interested I will decide once the project is finished.

Primarch

Raiders is an E:A supplement that Moscovian, et. al. produced. He had it professionally printed and bound and charged a nominal fee to cover the cost of production, with any profit going to charity. It puts the Swordwind supplement to shame.

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If I can drop in my $.02 as a designer who makes books for a living, it's best to avoid heavy background texture and photos on things like this. A simple colored background and possibly a small border element containing eye candy is more than enough to spice up a page without compromising readability (note large blocks of knocked out text with drop shadows are extremely fatiguing for the eye to parse) especially if you include full color images. Of course given I'm in the US, that makes it even less that $.02 with the exchange rate to you Brits. :)

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Hi!

The compromise will be to use a simpler background in text heavy areas with a more colorful background for unit descriptions.

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Quote: (primarch @ Sep. 11 2009, 17:01 )

Quote: (Dwarf Supreme @ Sep. 11 2009, 10:58 )

Quote: (Warmaster Nice @ Sep. 11 2009, 05:44 )

(in case Primarch decides to put a Raiders style printed version for sale)

For the record, I would gladly buy a Raiders-style version of NetEpic Gold.

Hi!

What is a "raider's style" book? Reference?

On a side note, I'm definitely making books, at least for myself. Whether or not I do it for a group of those interested I will decide once the project is finished.

Primarch

Raiders is an E:A supplement that Moscovian, et. al. produced. He had it professionally printed and bound and charged a nominal fee to cover the cost of production, with any profit going to charity. It puts the Swordwind supplement to shame.

Hi!

Well, this answers the one question I had, that I could have a book made and professionally bound without GW jumping down my throat.

NetEpic gold is the same concept as the raiders book, just on a much larger scale.

I think what WMN is producing will look REALLY good as a printed book, so I desire that the production values be in accordance with such a publishing.

I guess the more colorful background should just be "sprinkled" about, with an overall simpler background dedicated to the core rulebook and text heavy areas.

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Thanks Zap :) Could I ask you to send a full resolution version of the Supa Rokkit to this mail please? chris (at) mustangsalling.dk


And thanks for the input regarding the design. Much appreciated. Like Primarch said I thik we're going to try and strike a balance  :p

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