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AMTL 3.15

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:53 pm 
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Quote: (Evil and Chaos @ 22 Jul. 2009, 09:25 )

- Renamed 'Skitarii' to Hypastists (as that was their name in the Epic 40,000 Mechanicus army list by Gav Thorpe)

What are they called in the most recent 40K codex? I'd rather use that name than something from E40k.

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- Renamed 'Skitarii' to Hypastists (as that was their name in the Epic 40,000 Mechanicus army list by Gav Thorpe)

What are they called in the most recent 40K codex? I'd rather use that name than something from E40k.

They are not dealt with in any great detail in any Codex.

Codex Tyranids mentions 'Skitarii' fighting Tyranids in defence of Gryphonne IV.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:59 pm 
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Quote: (Evil and Chaos @ 22 Jul. 2009, 09:25 )

- Renamed 'Skitarii' to Hypastists (as that was their name in the Epic 40,000 Mechanicus army list by Gav Thorpe)

What are they called in the most recent 40K codex? I'd rather use that name than something from E40k.

They are not dealt with in any great detail in any Codex.

Codex Tyranids mentions 'Skitarii' fighting Tyranids in defence of Gryphonne IV.

If that's the most recent information, than why not stick with that?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:01 pm 
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Because it's vague at best.

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Skitarii/TechGuard is just an overall discription of the armies of the Adeptus Mechanicus (excluding Titans). The individual unit types could have different descriptions.




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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:05 pm 
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Wow, been ages since I check out these chaps!
Since I'm a bit rusty with We hordes my comments shall be (no doubt thankfully) limited.

Support missiles
Are they supposed to be balanced? And costed for the Titan list or the other one?
They seem to be off hand roughly BP weapons the best, followed by the deathstrike followed by the warp missile. Certainly I'd go for a minoris company carrying barrage missiles and try to fire one off every turn.

Triple turbo lasers - does anyone get them over TLD considering its 50% more firepower for 100% more cost?

Melta cannon - people find its as good as a volcano cannon?

So are plasma reavers, 6bp indirect reavers and 'free' weapon reavers pretty popular?

Emperor - I'm never going to like it. Can't you invent a new crapper class than the old Imperator and have it as the smallest/weakest Emperor to justify the stats? Its embarrassing being matched or even out fought in assaults by Great Gargants (and inferior to a warlord in close combat - with the warmonger being worse, being on par with a reaver for FF attacks).

Pics - like that you have used the same forge world design of titan for each. Though would of course prefered to see the old 1st edition common weapon loads :)

So anyone tried the 5 Reavers, one 25 point upgrade and one lot of sentinels army yet? I guess if you were really worried about air you could drop a reaver and get 2 thunderbolts, CML and a warhound and whatever. Or just get a lot more sentinels and try to ensure enough are running around at the end to help somewhat :)

The only emperor army that comes to mind is Warmonger blitz guard, Imperator to move to centre and take the two take and holds and 500 points of whatever to do stuff.

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Triple turbo lasers - does anyone get them over TLD considering its 50% more firepower for 100% more cost?

I do. I haven't really found that the extra cost affects what I'm able to field and two more dice are always useful.

Melta cannon - people find its as good as a volcano cannon?
I find it depends on what I'm tooling my titans out for. If I want long range killing I'll take a volcano cannon but if it's a assault reaver I might take the melta cannon or two for the extra attack and TK aspect along with laser burner(s).

So are plasma reavers, 6bp indirect reavers and 'free' weapon reavers pretty popular?

I've read a report with the 6bp indirect reaver, which looks somewhat attractive, and heard of laserburner CC ones but I don't find a fully plasma based titan all that attractive because of the slow firing aspect.




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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:15 pm 
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Quote: (The_Real_Chris @ 22 Jul. 2009, 20:05 )

Triple turbo lasers - does anyone get them over TLD considering its 50% more firepower for 100% more cost?

Well, it's not exactly 100% more cost, since part of the cost of the TLD is included in the cost of the Titan. Otherwise +3EA, TK D3 on the CCW would be an absolute bargain for free.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:18 am 
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do you still need pics of units? i have the following painted?

imperator
warmonger
reaver
warhound
baneblade
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do you still need pics of units? i have the following painted?

imperator
warmonger
reaver
warhound
baneblade
shadowsword
stormsword
forge knights

The three super-heavy tanks and the two Emperor Titans would be appreciated.

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Chris, it would be good if you could post some suggestions, as well as point out areas you feel are under performing.

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ill snap some pics tomorrow afternoon in some nice natural light. i have the 4th super heavy tank i just cant think of the name, you want that too?


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Quote: (Evil and Chaos @ 22 Jul. 2009, 12:01 )

Because it's vague at best.

Really? I always thought it was pretty specific, but I'm hardly an expert on 40k unit fluff. I bow to your greater knowledge.

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Well, there's some minor confusion as to when to use the term 'Tech Guard' or 'Skitarii' in the first place - as they are either two seperate things or interchangeable - but its pretty much true that 'Skitarii' is an overall term, whereas Hysapists is the known term for the infantry element of a Skitarii/Tech Guard army

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