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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:33 am 
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thanks for that A+++

I sort these guys out and should have a list done and some new pics by 2nite.


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 Post subject: New to Epic and Orks
PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:14 am 
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Ebay wise, just take what you are willing to pay for the model, then subtract the postage, enter it in and forget about it!

Nice collection of orks, more than enough to get you going. Orks can very easily take a great gargant so if you need a points boost its just one model :)

Note a base doesn't have to be 5 men, it can be 3-7 depending on what you prefer (indeed IG can put 8 on as the missile launcher is 2 men).

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:29 am 
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Ok after a few hours and sorting, I have made a 3000point list. I have no clue how it would play thats why i would like some input. These are the list of models i have got and made the list with. Excluding the Mekboy Stompamob unit that i would need to buy if they dont go.

this is my list:

Warband #1

Nobs 3
Ork Boys 8
Gretchin 4
Big Guns 2
Stompas 1

Points 410

Warband #2

Nobs 3
Ork Boys 8
Gretchin 4
Big Guns 2
Stompas 1

Points 410

Warband #3

Nobs 3
Ork Boys 8
Gretchin 4
Big Guns 2
Stompas 1

Points 410

Warband #4

Nobs 3
Ork Boys 8
Gretchin 4
Big Guns 2
Stompas 1

Points 410

StormBoys Warhorde

Stormboyz 6
Warbikes 6
Skorchas 3
Kommandos 4

Points 475

Mekboy Stompamob

Stompas 3
Killa Kans 4

Points 325

Blitz Brigade

Gunwagons 10

Points 360

Fighta Sqwadron

Fighta Bommers 4

Points 200


Total Points 3000


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:35 am 
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These at the pics of what i have.

The 3 bags are a warband each as i dont have the bases to complete these. I am after a good heap of bases if any one has any i could buy pref in (NZ)













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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:53 pm 
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If you were going to buy more infantry you could use Warmaster sized bases and put them 7 to a base! A real horde then :) Otherwise check out the various threads on making bases. Some people use bits of those ruin strips to make the base look better, provide a handle to pick it up with and/or cover up a bit of the base to use less men.

Also have to glued models to bases?

If you have a list of how many of each model you have people might be able to give a bit more advice. Certainly I think you need to use big formations a bit more.

Its likely you will have less than 3000 points after such a re-organisation, but thats just an excuse to buy more :)

Edit - found a list
Space Ork Mob (1 sprue):
·  28 Ork Boyz
·  15 Gretchin
·  11 Ork Nobz
·  6 Command Figures
·  5 Kommandos
·  5 Shooty Boyz
·  5 Stormboyz
·  3 Warbikes
·  1 Shock Attack Gun
·  1 Stomper

So do you have 6 complete sprues? And 12 wagonz? Any wagons missing guns could perhaps be converted to flak wagons?




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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:56 pm 
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Overall you need some flakwagons and oddboys units (two essential ork bits).


If thats all you have (if you can list the models seperately might be able to squeeze out a bit more) I suggest using the big guns as boyz for now and going for something like.

500 points Big Mob (BTS)
Nobs  4
Boys 14
Grots 6
Kommandos 4

400 points Big Mob
Nobs  4
Boys 14
Grots 6

350 points Big Mob
Nobs  4
Boys 12
Grots 4

Stompa mob
How many stompas do you have? 4?
300 if 4, +75 each for more (NETEpic goes with 400 for 6 which is good).

200 points Fighter bombers 4

150 Stormboyz 6

225 Kult of speed, 6 bikes 3 scorcha

350 Huge Blitz brigade 12

2475 points and room for more :)

If you group the shokk attacks together (maybe 3 to a base) they could be oddboy unit upgrades but they are better going on the vehicles somehow (maybe use shokk attacks on empty hulls?).

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:20 pm 
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First thing would be what rules are you using the make that list, when you say big mob you mean warband?, as i am using the books of the gw site at present.

I have almost a good 6 full sprews with some missing. i do have more grots and boys, the listing for the nobs and kommandos and that are all i got same with stompas. Do have 5 but i am missing the 2nd part of the body. With the thanks only 10 as some are missing guns also one bubble tanks and lifta droper but these are not in the new rules.

I might need to clarify a few things what i dont know.

1. What is an oddboy?
2. The guys with what look like auto cannons are these big guns?
3. I dont mind adding models to the list as i do have alot of the same.
4. Lets say 4k points max (unless everyone else plays 3k) or what is the torny size for epic?
5. i also get some pig riders and some dudes what look like they come in the command spru a wired boy and dudes with spanners.

If you guys could possibly give me some lists with the items i have and i dont mind buying some extras. so you dont need to use all i have just at least 50-60%





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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:16 pm 
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Quote: (lazarus992 @ 16 Jul. 2009, 21:20 )

First thing would be what rules are you using the make that list, when you say big mob you mean warband?, as i am using the books of the gw site at present

Warbands come in three sizes - normal, big and 'uge. I'm using the rules straight off the GW website. Each one is larger than the last, with a discount on the cost.


i do have more grots and boys

Grotz are the bees knees in the ork list.

With the thanks only 10 as some are missing guns also
I suggest kitbashing up some flakwagonz!
one bubble tanks and lifta droper but these are not in the new rules.
The bubble chuka and lifta droppa are in the new rules - they are gunwagons with oddboy upgrades :)

1. What is an oddboy?
An Oddboy is an ork with a massive gun. Its a character so it adds its gun to the stand.

2. The guys with what look like auto cannons are these big guns?
If you want. I use them as infantry to make stands look better. There is no hard and fast rule. Some people use them as big guns, some don't. As long as your army is consistent its fine.

3. I dont mind adding models to the list as i do have alot of the same.
Still is a solid core. Adding a great gargant is fun though :)

4. Lets say 4k points max (unless everyone else plays 3k) or what is the torny size for epic?
Tournies range from 2700 points, to 3000 points as the UK standard, then 4000 points at 'special' tournies.

5. i also get some pig riders
Use them as 'counts as' bikers.

and some dudes what look like they come in the command spru a wired boy and dudes with spanners
Add them to your supreme commander stand. Or keep the wierdboyz seperate for a feral ork army. Or use the mekboys added to stands to show they have an oddboy upgrade. Or stick some wierdboyz on a turretless wagon for the same effect!

So can you do a list of how many of each model you have?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:23 pm 
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Nobs 12
Boys 32
Gretchin 16
Bigguns 8
Stomps 4
Stormboyz 6
War Bikes 6
Skorchas 3
Kommandos 4
Gunwagons 10

OK this is the format i think should be good.

I will have so far two Big mobs

Each will be

Nobs 4
Boys 12
Grectchin 4
Oddboyz 2 ( where my big gun bases now will be oddboys )

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:48 am 
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New List Got about the same amount of gear + some for only 2600, so i got 400 to play with. And i just need to scratch build 4 flak tanks. This is a big load of ork troops with a few tanks. might play well not sure. i know if it was 40k i would s**t myself with all these dudes running at me.

I am happy with this list and i am using almost all of what i have. So ideas are open for the last 400 points.

Big Mob #1

Nobs 4
Ork Boys 12
Gretchin 4
Kommandos 2

Points 400

Big Mob #2

Nobs 4
Ork Boys 12
Gretchin 4
Kommandos 2

Points 400

Big Mob #3

Nobs 4
Ork Boys 12
Gretchin 4
Kommandos 2

Points 400

StormBoys Warhorde

Stormboyz 6

Points 150

Fighta Sqwadron

Fighta Bommers 4

Points 200

Mekboy Stompamob

Stompas 4

Points 300

Blitz Brigade

Gunwagons 8

Points 250

Blitz Brigade

Flakwagons 4

Points 150

Kult of Speed

Warbikes 6
Skorchas 3

Points 175

Mekboy Gunzmob

big Gunz 5
OddBoy 1

Points 175


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:48 am 
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My first two painted models came out nice.



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:46 am 
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:35 pm 
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Quote: (lazarus992 @ 16 Jul. 2009, 23:23 )

Nobs 12
Boys 32
Gretchin 16
Bigguns 8
Stomps 4
Stormboyz 6
War Bikes 6
Skorchas 3
Kommandos 4
Gunwagons 10

I was thinking more by individual models (so x number of warlord, x number of nobs, x number of runtherds, etc).

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:37 pm 
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Quote: (lazarus992 @ 17 Jul. 2009, 01:48 )

New List Got about the same amount of gear + some for only 2600, so i got 400 to play with. And i just need to scratch build 4 flak tanks. This is a big load of ork troops with a few tanks. might play well not sure. i know if it was 40k i would s**t myself with all these dudes running at me.

I am happy with this list and i am using almost all of what i have. So ideas are open for the last 400 points.

You seem to need a few more boyz units if you aren't using big guns.

Also I find big guns mobs are better than normal, which are strictly one shot formations (they die so easily!).

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