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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:37 pm 
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Quote: (GlynG @ 15 Jul. 2009, 18:09 )

Could I request a CAD 'photo' of a Warlord with twin Plasma Blastgun as the Carapace Guns now that E&C has finished modelling that gun if it's not too much trouble? Reckon it'd look hot :)

Not yet, E&C has gone out, he's hopefully gonna send me one tonight, which will then go on and be rendered.

Always considered the Iconic Reaver loadout to be MRL and two TLD's, as this is how the very first Reaver was shown and how all the stats cards and army cards showed them.




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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:43 pm 
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Really? Could have sworn AT Reavers where normally the powerfist config. The twin TLD didn't come about till the current edition?

I don't have any of my stuff with me but I'm surwe thats how WD and everythign else showed them. Even the old blue catalogue had it as teh example


Certainly my oldest Reaver has that config and since I was 10 when I was getting AT stuff I doubt I was mixing and matching weapons much back then.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:36 pm 
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The Space Marine first Ed rulebook I have in my hand shows the Reaver silhouette stat card with what look like twin TLD's. Admittedly the things at the back are almost identical to the example you've given.
Titan legions has the same stat card.

All the army cards I have (from first ED through to Titan Legions, including the seperated army box sets) have that same silhouette.

The Adeptus Titanicus original model box: that's where we need to look for this, I don't have any left though, and my old white dwarfs are in somerset.

What weapons were in the original box, I forget? The three reavers I have from back then have different combos.

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Quote: (Evil and Chaos @ 15 Jul. 2009, 07:51 )

The Small and Large walking robots would come in a 'Standard Configuration' straight out of the kit, whilst the Medium Walking Robot would not (as the Standard Configuration for the Reaver is no longer legal according to the Warhammer 40,000 rules/background).

Who cares what the "standard" configuration is for 40k? Wouldn't it be better to include the weapons for the Reaver as it appears in the E:A rulebook for the benefit of players who don't field AMTL armies and thus won't be swapping weapons?

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Quote: (Jonluke @ 15 Jul. 2009, 15:36 )

The Space Marine first Ed rulebook I have in my hand shows the Reaver silhouette stat card with what look like twin TLD's. Admittedly the things at the back are almost identical to the example you've given.
Titan legions has the same stat card.

All the army cards I have (from first ED through to Titan Legions, including the seperated army box sets) have that same silhouette.

The Adeptus Titanicus original model box: that's where we need to look for this, I don't have any left though, and my old white dwarfs are in somerset.

What weapons were in the original box, I forget? The three reavers I have from back then have different combos.

Adeptus Titanicus came with two each of the following weapons: Auto Cannon (now called Gatling Blaster), Las Cannon, Multi-Launcher, Multi-Melta, Plasma Gun (now Plasma Cannon), Defence Laser (now Volcano Cannon), Macro Cannon (now Quake Cannon), Plasma Cannon (now Plasma Destructor), Power Fist, Chain Fist, Las Cutter (now Laser Burner) and (Support) Missile.




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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:32 pm 
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The SM2/TL era Reaver box had a Vulcan Megabolter, Plasma Blastgun, Turbo Laser Destructor, POwerfist and Inferno gun and Reaver MRL. I bought 3 boxes back then so I can't remember if there were ever any duplicate weapons to build the current standard configuration. I don't know what the contents of the AT/SM1 era blister pack were but I guess it must have included the banner pole, secondary head and chain fist as a minimum.

DS is right though: The important thing is that the basic model at least contain the weapon loadout to build the vanilla titan weapon configs from the rulebook.

edit: Oh, and I too look forward to seeing the model with the more imposing looking plasma blastgun.  :smile:




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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:17 pm 
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I'm for the "standard" load out as well, makes sense for the epic player, but it's E&C who'll be making that project, so talk to him about it.

I guess where we're getting with this is that there was no real "standard" back in the old days.

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Quote: (Jonluke @ 15 Jul. 2009, 20:36 )

The Space Marine first Ed rulebook I have in my hand shows the Reaver silhouette stat card with what look like twin TLD's. Admittedly the things at the back are almost identical to the example you've given.
Titan legions has the same stat card.

All the army cards I have (from first ED through to Titan Legions, including the seperated army box sets) have that same silhouette.

The Adeptus Titanicus original model box: that's where we need to look for this, I don't have any left though, and my old white dwarfs are in somerset.

What weapons were in the original box, I forget? The three reavers I have from back then have different combos.

Their weren't any army cards in 1st ed, just the datacard where you recorded equipment, skills, speed, void shields etc.

Anyway I was actual referring to the Reaver (so wrong thread it seems). Warlord wise any AT veterin would tell you back in the day it was 2 multilaunchers and two defence lasers for the win!

The reaver came in a blister with only three weapons I seem to dimly remember. Don't know if it was random or fixed in different blisters. I'll try and find a datacard image on the net for nostalgias sake :)

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I'm too young to have played AT but I have all the White Dwarves from this era: White Dwarf 109 has rules and models for different sorts of Reavers. White Dwarf 108 has a single photo of the sort as described by TRC. Not sure if this meant they were all this way for a month, or if that was just the photo and they all options were available from the start.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:27 pm 
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Quote: (Jonluke @ 15 Jul. 2009, 05:32 )

Here's lengthened legs:

Weapons - the only reason I'm not tackling a Gatling Blaster sooner is because I havn't got the money to buy one from forgeworld and accuracy is a major factor in the scaling process, I could concievably make a different variant Gatling blaster, but it would look different to the Reaver's.

What would people think of such a weapon?

I would expect a Warlord's primary weapon systems to be larger than the equivalent on a Reaver. This has been true of all models so far if I'm not mistaken, although GW have never before tried to make all three classes of titan actually complement each other.

As mentioned above, I'm chiefly interested in the standard weapon fit. I'd very much like to see the standard weapon loadout and since you are reimagining the warlord from scratch, I see absolutely no reason to straightjacket yourself with the weapons from forgeworld.

I'd VERY much like to see what you come up with as regards a Warlord pattern gattling blaster and volcano cannon. You clearly have the skill and imagination to do it justice. I'd prefer you made your own arm weapons as they will fit better with the monster you have given birth to - I think correctly-scaled reaver weapons will look too small.

So: Gattling Blaster! Gattling Blaster! Gattling Blaster!  :vD


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:05 am 
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LI: I believe E&C has chatted with the FW guys about this and they said they intended to use the same weapons from the Reaver when they make a warlord.

Printing and casting costs are also significantly reduced by sharing parts.

I do agree however that the reaver should come with the standard epic weapon selection as standard, whether it's allowed in 40k or not.




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Not to mention the reaver and warlord weapons have identical stats, both in Epic and in 40k.


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Quote: (zombocom @ 16 Jul. 2009, 00:05 )

LI: I believe E&C has chatted with the FW guys about this and they said they intended to use the same weapons from the Reaver when they make a warlord.

I can confirm this is true ; they consider the Warlord project partially started because of this.

I do agree however that the reaver should come with the standard epic weapon selection as standard, whether it's allowed in 40k or not.

I guess it wouldn't really hurt to also provide a pair of Warhound class Turbolasers with each Medium Robot, as they'll already be modeled.

But I will also model and include the iconic weapons fit of a modern Reaver Titan and use it in games with Counts-As (or WYSIWYG with AMTL points costings), because in the background, Battle Titans aren't even allowed to carry Scout class weapons on the arms anymore.

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Provide the Reaver with a Apocalypse missile Launcher for the Carapace and two Laser Blasters (aka triple-batrelled Turbolaser Destructors) for the arms and it comes the Rulebook Reaver as close at it can.

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I'll model the Epic Standard Config, and the modern iconic loadout.

They share a Missile Launcher, but the arm weapons are different, ce la vie.

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