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What should E&C make next?
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What should E&C make next?

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 10:46 pm 
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E&C,

I voted for Titan weapons, but please dont limit yourself to just Warlords, the Reaver is also screaming for some attention. To the plug in idea, although it is simple, does it not miss some detail between weapon systems. A Gatling Blaster needs a hopper for its large numbers of ammunition, a quake cannon needs a similar constrct to store its massive rounds. Then you have energy weapons of various types that need some attention.

From what I have seen so far you have a wealth of talent to call on to create such things, dont sell them short mate. Its a big market out there. :agree:

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 11:01 pm 
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While i wouldl ove it to see an actual Bombard i think the Warlord weapons would be much much more useful  :)

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2009 11:14 pm 
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From what I have seen so far you have a wealth of talent to call on to create such things, dont sell them short mate. Its a big market out there.


I doubt the market is big enough to support the high cost of having every one of ~8 arm weapon designs matter printed.

It gets even more expensive if they're made right/left handed. Even with the modular plan I've come up with it marginal.

the Reaver is also screaming for some attention.

Modular weapons would also be compatible with the Reaver, by using a Reaver-specific left/right arm set.




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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2009 12:29 am 
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Quote: (Evil and Chaos @ 17 May 2009, 21:02 )

This is a quick sketch of the kind of modularity I'm thinking of...

Yup.  I have to say I'm not opposed to the idea of modularity, and those concepts look like they'd slot in pretty neatly.
But, it shows up one of the points I was trying to make.  It looks well for conventional long, round-barrelled weapons that'll all fit pretty similarly on the square peg, but what about odder stuff like the aforementioned power fist or inferno cannon? (If you plan to go with FW's version of the Lucius inferno cannon, that is)

On the subject of Lucius pattern weapons, I'm a tad disappointed you went with the old Mars pattern quake cannon. :laugh:  Only a tad, though; and it's because of my own ideas - given the scaled-up-from-40K nature of most titan weapons, I imagined the Lucius version as looking like the biggest autocannon evar.

I doubt the market is big enough to support the high cost of having every one of ~8 arm weapon designs matter printed.


Therein lies the crux of the matter. :sad:  I think we can agree on that.





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Quote: (Vermis @ 18 May 2009, 00:29 )

But, it shows up one of the points I was trying to make.  It looks well for conventional long, round-barrelled weapons that'll all fit pretty similarly on the square peg, but what about odder stuff like the aforementioned power fist...?

Most of the arm weapons (Like 90% of them) would use the concept mount point.
A power fist wouldn't use the modular mount point, it would be an entire arm.

...or inferno cannon?

You mean Inferno Gun?
The Warhound class weapon?

I reckon I can make a design that looks good on the mount point or on the carapace (And it should be a carapace weapon according to the current 40k rules / background).

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Quote: (Evil and Chaos @ 18 May 2009, 00:34 )

You mean Inferno Gun?
The Warhound class weapon?

:oo:

(And it should be a carapace weapon according to the current 40k rules / background).


Ah.

Looks like I'm several AMTL lists out of date, too.

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Well, the only Inferno Cannon currently in the game is a weapon fitted to a Chimera... a little small to be a Titan weapon. :)

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Quote: (Evil and Chaos @ 17 May 2009, 16:27 )

Well if you follow what they've done in Warhammer 40,000, only certain weapons (Warhound weapons, Support Missiles & missile launcher) are allowed on the carapace.

True, but I don't think the Epic community/game should follow that line. I think the way you chose for the current AMTL is about right, with the exception that the Plasma Destructor should not be used as an arm weapon.

I like converting so I make all my Titan weapons from scratch or existing GW weapons and don't need your expert versions. That's why I voted for something else and meant anything you want to make. Wait, I have an idea: What about objective markers (maybe even modular) that can be quickly painted? Now that is something that I could use.

P.S.: IF you make Warlord weapons, please don't put these "sticks" on them that are on some old school weapons (like the Quake Cannon). They really don't improve the design. :sigh:

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After some number crunching I don't think Warlord Weapons are going to be practical to produce... matter printing costs would be on the order of ~£500, meaning that full weapon sets would have to be ~£25 for one of each weapon (~15 weapons) and a pair of arms... I don't know if there's enough demand for the project to break even.




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I would love to see some Chaos armour produced.

I can improvise Nurgle but the others could be a challenge too far for my limitied modeling skills.

But anything IG or Marine and I would be happy ;-)


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£500 sounds a bit expensive and I understand your concerns. Unlike the tanks, most people are probably only going to buy one or two weapon packs to get what they need.

It is a tricky one. A cheaper version would be just the weapon tips that people could then mount on the existing arm mounts with a bit of conversion work. However that isn't really that much cheaper.
Personally I'd probably just build whatever weapons I need myself.
Another option is to come up with a good list of easy to come by proxy pieces that could be mounted on a generic arm mount and also used on an Ordinatus Minoris chassis? After all there's plenty of plastic and metal pieces from GW to choose from. Personally I'd rather see a cool Ordinatus Minoris chassis made, as that would be much harder to scratch build than the actual weapon.

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You know what I would love to see, redesigned Eldar Knights.


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Quote: (Bunny @ 18 May 2009, 13:37 )

I would love to see some Chaos armour produced.

I can improvise Nurgle but the others could be a challenge too far for my limitied modeling skills.

But anything IG or Marine and I would be happy ;-)

I'd second that - or conversion bits to make regular vehicles more chaosy.

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what about a combined effort with the big "o" about a towed bombard perfekt for the the korp

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Quote: (redsimon @ 18 May 2009, 13:24 )


True, but I don't think the Epic community/game should follow that line. I think the way you chose for the current AMTL is about right, with the exception that the Plasma Destructor should not be used as an arm weapon.

I agree to the first bit but not the second, why shouldn't a Plasma Destructor be an arm weapon? The unreleased MKII metal warlord has a a lower arm only Plasma Destructor and it's a fantastic design.

I have all the unreleased titan weapons and without really wanting to admit to anything publically there may be uh possibilities happening down the line with certain individuals when I get round to sorting it out, that could open new possibilities to people. Use your imagination.





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