OK, here's a thread to try and do one of two things:
- standardise the LR Redeemer's profile;
OR
- decide that it's OK to have several, different profiles for the Redeemer in different army lists.
Here are the current profiles for the Redeemer:
Land Raider Redeemer Salamanders versionAV - 25 cm
Arm. 4+
CC5+
FF2+
Frag Launchers (contact)/(Assault Weapons)
2 x Flamestorm Cannon (15cm)/(Small Arms), Ignore Cover AND 15cm/AP4+, Ignore Cover
Multi-melta (15cm)/(Small Arms), MW AND 15cm/MW5+
Twin Assault Cannon 30 cm/AP4+/AT4+
Notes: Reinforced Armour, Thick Rear Armour, Transport (may carry 1 Terminator unit OR 2 of the following units: Tactical, Devastator & Scout)
The Multi-melta and Flamestorm Cannon can shoot and be used to confer the Macro-Weapon and Ignore Cover abilities to the unit’s firefight value.
Land Raider Redeemer Blood Angels versionAV - 25 cm
Arm. 4+
CC6+
FF4+
2 x Redeemer Flamers (15cm)/(Small Arms), Extra Attacks (+1) AND 15cm/AP3+, Ignore Cover
Twin Assault Cannon 30 cm/AP4+/AT4+
Notes: Reinforced Armour, Thick Rear Armour, Transport (may carry 1 Terminator unit OR 2 of the following units: Tactical, Devastator & Scout)
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As I said in the BA thread, I much prefer the BA variant and don't really like the FF2+ with MW and IC in the Salamanders variant.
Black Legion said that the Salamanders version could be considered to be a "Sallies-only" variant, which would give a reason for 2 different profiles.
EDIT : Also, if we go for no Multi-melta and 3xFF5+ attacks on the LR Crusader, the BA version would be quite balanced when compared to it: 3xFF4+ attacks and a very short-ranged AP shot but normal transport capacity. In short, slightly superior FF firepower vs. extended transport capacity.
So... any thoughts? ÂÂ
