By the way I printed the latest version of your list to organise an army and it came out very strangely, my printer seems to be working ok so I was wondering if the document was compiled with white ink text or something (lots of the text didn't print at all and that that did was difficult to read)
Any ideas? Thanks

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I always wanted this sort of army to be a possibility. The question is would you like the main list to be flexible enough to accomodate this, or would you prefer a more fringe cookie-cutter sub-list that allows this to be made and potentially gives you more "characterful" options (like Daemonhosts   ) at the expense of flexibility?

For example, I was thinking of making a Guard/Inquisition list which allows a Puritan to command a mostly-guard army (perhaps some limited Grey Knight support). The other list would be a Radical, daemonhosts and all, along with dodgy Space Marines. Neither really fits your needs exactly.

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Which one are you trying to print off? That old v2.1 combined list?

I would hold off for a couple of days before making a list as the list is in flux right now while I decide on the way forward. If you still want to at least play around with a list, email me and I'll send you the latest Witch Hunters army list. I'll have a new Witch Hunters list very soon though.

Yeah, that'll be the one. As you know I've long been interested in playing Sisters and since you'd asked about lists I thought I'd actually take a look.
I've no problem with waiting if a new list is coming out shortly.
Thanks for all the work on this.

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Well, the plan right now is to make three core lists. So: Daemonhunters, Witch Hunters, Alien Hunters. Each one has a core set of Inquisitorial units (Inquisitors and Stormtroopers, basically) and the Chamber Militant (Grey Knights, Sisters and Deathwatch respectively.) Currently, each one also has the option for adding in Guard, Marine, Titan or Navy allies (but you can only have one).

So no mixing of Ordos, the original list had all three together but I'm going to keep them separate.

As far as a Radical Inq, I'm not sure where that would fit best.  As a separate variant, one potential idea might be to do it like the IG traitors in the L&D list, where the Inquisitor has held onto the forces so long that the original force org no longer applies.  The Inquisitor has forged his own little "cult of personality."  The Inquisitor options could include all the freaky daemonhost and psyker stuff with Stormtroopers, IG and SM formations all included in the basic formation selection with formation sizes and org set up pretty much however you like.

Just putting all allies in the 1/3rd of the list already allowing allies will solve lots of cherry picking.

Only allowing smaller support formations would also do it.

The trouble is that if you let one list ally freely, then why not all the others?

Just saying 'ite the Inquisition' isn't a good reason, Farseers can easily work together for a common purpose and let you ally different Craftworlds.

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Yes, "it's the Inquisition" really is the reason!  

Sure, farseers can ally together, but then again, Farseers have been known to ally with Imperials too. Equally, Imperial forces from different brances regularly work together.

Make no mistake, however, this is not an alliance. An Inquisitor can simply requisition any forces in the Imperium under penalty of excruciating death, no matter their command, mission or objectives. In practice this may be problematic (the Adeptus Mechanicus and Astartes can both make things particularly difficult) but any and all forces can be requisitioned.

"Each Inquisitor is a peer of the Imperium, one of a finite elite who hold ultimate authority over Mankind. As such, an Inquisitor can recruit any military or civilian force in the pursuit of Imperial duties, from hive world security details through to entire Space Marine Chapter, Titan Legions and vessels of the Imperial Navy."

There really is a good "background" reason for the Inquisition and only the Inquisition being allowed access to other Imperial armies. I countered this by only allowing the Inquisitor to draw on resources from one of these military branches at a time (most normally an Inquisitor will only have the contacts or available troops from one, so it isn't too much of a far-fetched restriction.)

The other factor is that some people just don't like the idea of an Inquisitorial army that doesn't have Space Marines or Guard as its backbone, this was intended to allow them to flesh their army out with guard and make the Inquisitorial units more rare.

Hey if that's your logic then I want Lost and Damned in my CSM army since a Chaos Warlord can certainly induct them in the same way an Inquisitor gets Imperials.

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Okay, well, noted. I might point out that the whole point of this thread is wanting to look at what sort of options people have with an eye to removing these options in favour of more specialised lists, so I'll take your post as you agreeing with that.

Nevertheless, one of the key aspects of the Inquisitorial forces is that they are a mish-mash of troops that are mustered by the Inquisition from other sources. The same logic could apply to the Chaos forces, but it makes much more sense to keep them distinct. The ability to requisition forces is something that defines an Inquisitor in a way that it doesn't define a Chaos Warlord. The other thing is that while chaos troops are a mix of Marines and rabble filth from the Eye, they do tend to fight as distinct forces as the Chaos Marines use the cultists mercilessly as fodder but apply their own strikes independantly. Lastly from a game-balance perspective, it is unfeasable to make a combined Chaos Marine/Daemon/Cultist/Traitor Guard/Daemon Engines list, but three Inquisitorial lists that allow a very limited number of allied units is not so impractical. It should be noted that the Inquisitorial forces in 40K are designed to be integrated extensively with guard and marine forces, while the Chaos Marines can't even be used with true Daemons anymore...

As I said, some people really object to the very idea of Inquisitorial forces in Epic without indentured troops. This makes building the list something of a tightrope work and ideally I'd like a list that can match everyone's view of the Inquisition without becoming unwieldy or bloated with excessive options that can't be balanced.