Squat and Demiurg Consolidation List Draft v1.0

The purpose behind this effort is to offer Epic Armageddon players a pair of unique lists highlighting different facets of the Homeworlds derived from a common pool of units. Both army lists will retain their unique look and feel, but we recognized the need for commonality. We look forward to the Epic community’s reactions, comments and playtest results as we continue to refine the composition of each army.

all the best, enjoy - Jaldon and epilgrim


the following Special Rule applies to all Squat and Demiurg fomations with the noted exception of Robots/Autonoms.

Stubborn - Troops with this special ability are hard to break in assaults, and will rally quicker then other troops to get back into the fight and the following two rules represent this:
(1) Assault: they re-roll any die result of "1" during Assault Resolution. The re-roll result must be kept even if it is a "1".
(2) Rally: they ignore the -1 modifier for enemy formations with 30cm during the Rally phase.


Units Descriptions

Squat Living Ancestor / Demiurg Merchant Prince
Type / Speed / Armour / Close Combat / Firefight
Character / n/a / n/a / n/a / n/a
Weapon / Range / Firepower / Notes
Master-Crafted Weapon / (base contact) / Assault Weapons / Macro-weapon, Extra Attack (+1)
Notes: Supreme Commander, Inspiring, Invulnerable Save


Squat Warlord / Demiurg Legate Marshal
Type / Speed / Armour / Close Combat / Firefight
Character / n/a / n/a / n/a / n/a
Weapon / Range / Firepower / Notes
Master-Crafted Weapon / (base contact) / Assault Weapons / Macro-weapon, Extra Attack (+1)
Notes: Commander, Leader, Invulnerable Save


Demiurg Trade Factor
Type / Speed / Armour / Close Combat / Firefight
Character / n/a / n/a / n/a / n/a
Weapon / Range / Firepower / Notes
Master-Crafted Weapon / (base contact) / Assault Weapons / Macro-weapon, Extra Attack (+1)
Notes: Leader

Squat Lord
Type / Speed / Armour / Close Combat / Firefight
Infantry / 15cm / 5+ / 4+ / 5+
Weapon / Range / Firepower / Notes
Auto Cannon / 45cm / AP5+/AT6+ / -
Lasguns / (15cm) / small arms / -
notes: Leader

These two units are similar in function, but they are used differently in each list, due to the cultural and organizational differences between the Strongholds and the Consortium.


Squat / Demiurg Hearthguard
Type / Speed / Armour / Close Combat / Firefight
Infantry / 15cm / 4+ / 4+ / 4+
Weapon / Range / Firepower / Notes
Master-Crafted Pistols / (15cm) / Small Arms / -
Master-Crafted Battle Axes / (base contact) / Assault Weapons / Macro-weapon, Extra Attack (+1) Heirloom Weapons / 45cm / AP 5+/AT 5+ / -
Notes: Reinforced Armour, this unit takes up 2 Transport slots


Squat Guild Master
Type / Speed / Armour / Close Combat / Firefight
Infantry / 30cm / 4+ / 3+ / 5+
Weapon / Range / Firepower / Notes
Master-Crafted Pistols / (15cm) / Small Arms / -
Power Lance / (base contact) / Assault Weapons / Macro-weapon, Extra Attack (+1)
Notes: Leader, Mounted, Reinforced Armour

This unit is unique to the Squat list, similar to the Squat Lord, but appearing in bike and trike formations..


Demiurg Hearthguard Cavalry
Type / Speed / Armour / Close Combat / Firefight
Infantry / 30cm / 4+ / 3+ / 5+
Weapon / Range / Firepower / Notes
Master-Crafted Pistols / (15cm) / Small Arms / -
Power Lances (base contact) / Assault Weapons / Macro-weapon, Extra Attack (+1)
Notes: Mounted, Reinforced Armour

This unit/formation is unique to the Demiurg.


Squat Warriors / Demiurg Iron-Breakers
Type / Speed / Armour / Close Combat / Firefight
Infantry / 15cm / 5+ / 5+ / 5+
Weapon / Range / Firepower / Notes
Lasguns / (15cm) / Small Arms / -
Missile Launcher / 45cm / AP 5+/AT 6+ / -
Notes: n/a


Squat Thunderers / Demiurg Armsmen
Type / Speed / Armour / Close Combat / Firefight
Infantry / 15cm / 5+ / 6+ / 4+
Weapon / Range / Firepower / Notes
2x Missile Launchers / 45cm / AP 5+/AT 6+ / -
Notes: n/a


Squat Bezerkers / Demiurg Sappers (“Sandhogsâ€Â

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Squat/Demiurg Army Co-Champion (in cahoots with Jaldon)

Swell! Great work!
I see many great improvements/balanced things here; I especially like the reducal of 'too many BP weapons' problem in colossus (although it still has non-macro and macro BP which does not combine well..) and land train changes.

Some "oddities":
- thunderfire AA is weak... sounds like one hydra without any other functionality. Id an unit is so limited hopefully it could giver some effective AA cover, like 3x AA4+ or something
- seems like heartguard / mounted has RA 4+ - isn't that a bit tough? Are they like terminators? (it also seems that datafax of squat guild master and demiurg hg cavalry are identical yet they are as separate entries)
- those trikes are still insanely good... (as a general consideration, why is squat/demiurg bikes/trikes armour 4+ while ork similarities have 5+ ?)

I haven't made up my mind about that mega-cannon or tunnellers change yet.
I still do not like that tunnellers are setup before spaceship has to choose its target, would make orbital barrages a lot better.

Thanks, a BIG thanks.

- seems like heartguard / mounted has RA 4+ - isn't that a bit tough? Are they like terminators? (it also seems that datafax of squat guild master and demiurg hg cavalry are identical yet they are as separate entries)
Yes, they are though as nails in their exo-armours.
If you re-read the text you see that squat guild masters act as leader units and demiurg heartguard cavalry is a formation.

- those trikes are still insanely good... (as a general consideration, why is squat/demiurg bikes/trikes armour 4+ while ork similarities have 5+ ?)
You can't compare squat technical know-how to orkish god devined tinkering.  

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It would be nice to get lightspeed,
so far we can only reach slight speed.- Erik M
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I know, but they are immobile and do nothing else than perform weak AA.
So hydras are like 5x better. They can be like this, of course, but should cost like 50-75 points for a formation of 2. And as models are sparse and BIG, I think they deserve better AA especially if they are so limited otherwise.

I know, but they still are identical, so that's why I am asking about the separation.
(hm, shouldn't guild master have leader or something...)

(hm, shouldn't guild master have leader or something...)

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Squat/Demiurg Army Co-Champion (in cahoots with Jaldon)

The timing was specifically thought out to avoid "easy kills".    

But I still wonder why a) target must be decided before doing the launch and b) they must be set-up before any other forces but still c) act as others.
Why would the tunnellers be there on their location even before those movement 0cm units? :]  Could at least the setup be like with other units...

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Squat/Demiurg Army Co-Champion (in cahoots with Jaldon)

We are both taking our time to revise the army lists, which is necessary.

For now please use the current lists with these stats. Playtest results, especially "broken" lists will offer the most useful data.

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Squat/Demiurg Army Co-Champion (in cahoots with Jaldon)

Thanks. I'll give the Squats a try as soon as I can.

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"I don't believe in destiny or the guiding hand of fate." N. Peart

Anyone up for placing the above into a PDF?

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It would be nice to get lightspeed,
so far we can only reach slight speed.- Erik M
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I'll probably get stuck with that - er, I mean I'll be happy to do that.  ePilgrim's local so he'll be able to get me immediate feedback if I screw it up.

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author of Syncing Forward and other stories...

It's a dog-eat-dog world, and I've got my Milkbone underwear on.

Yeah, a pdf would be handy.

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"I don't believe in destiny or the guiding hand of fate." N. Peart