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Evil and Chaos
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:15 pm 
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I really like the tracked gun.

It's a techmarine-only gun by the way.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:20 pm 
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- - and there was me thinking the gunner had had a "bad hair day" :p

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:12 am 
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(Evil and Chaos @ Jun. 06 2008,00:15)
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It's a techmarine-only gun by the way.

Great, train a man - well, space marine - to be an engineer and waste him firing a gun. It's like training a sniper and then using him to excavate trenches - using his rifle as a tool.... but I guess a unit has no place in 40K unless it can fire at least 4 barrels worth in one turn...
Hey, I'm ranting   :p
Still - love it for VSF :)

Bad hair day  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:21 am 
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ignoring the fact that the rules may still suck.. bring back 2nd ed.. Yay.. :)

I do like those new models, and will probably grab a set when they hit the stores.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:19 pm 
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Come on Van, a real engineer carries a flame thrower and assaults bunkers!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:57 pm 
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(The_Real_Chris @ Jun. 06 2008,15:19)
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Come on Van, a real engineer carries a flame thrower and assaults bunkers!

Yeah, but he doesn't drag a tracked cart behind him, let alone the 'bad hair day armour!
Guess how many bunkers I've flamed incidentally...  :p
Mind you, Faculty Board Meetings are tougher.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:28 pm 
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Yeah, and the provost would probably not be happy with you for frying the engineering department.

TRC, flamethrowers are a one-shot weapon.  Once used, the flamethrower team heads to the rear!

The best news about the new plastics is that GW re-cut the landspeeder (that horrible vehicle of never-fit-together), and it has all the variant parts on the basic sprue.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:28 am 
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Latest rumours are saying that the flame weapons on the sides of the tank are not Inferno Cannons... they're S6 AP3 flame weapons, which don't have the long range of the Inferno Cannon but are more powerful.


That'd mean that the stats would look more like:


Land Raider Redeemer.
Speed : 25cm
Armour : 4+
CC : 5+
FF : 3+
Weapons:
- 2x Super-Heavy Flamers (AP3+, 15cm, Ignores Cover and  Extra Attacks (+1), Small Arms, Ignores Cover).
- Twin Assault Cannon (AP4+ / AT4+, 30cm)

Notes: Thick Rear Armour, Reinforced Armour.

Transport: Unknown (Let's assume the same as a standard Land Raider, but it may be the same as a Crusader).



Still equal in value to the other Land Raiders?




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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:33 am 
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If its range drops with no transport boost its air drop only in terms of usefulness.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:00 pm 
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Yes. With Superheavy Flamers only it would have the same problems as the Predator Incinerator that it can only fire 1/3 of its weapons most of the time.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:40 pm 
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Yes. With Superheavy Flamers only it would have the same problems as the Predator Incinerator that it can only fire 1/3 of its weapons most of the time.

Are you talking about the 40k rules?

IIRC Marines are getting a rule in 40k that allows them to fire more weapons than other tank types when on the move.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:43 pm 
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No i'm talking about Epic.
The Predator Incinerator is in the Salamanders list for Epic which is a Destructor with Heavy Flamer sponsons.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:44 pm 
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Ah I see.

Yep its range is quite a drawback.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:48 pm 
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Picture of the Land Speeder Scout/Transport:
http://www.sphaerentor.com/wh40k/galler ... peeder.jpg

Rumours say it can transport 5 Scouts (and only Scouts, no Powerarmour, etc) so 1 unit in Epic.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:11 pm 
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^^ now that land speeder is excellent, would be a great addition to the marine list!

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