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darkangel
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:21 am 
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hi folks...darkangel is back again with just a couple of questions :D


Some questions shooting with barrage:

1) does barrage ignore cover in any case? even if i shoot at troops inside a house without a -2 to-hit modifier?

2) what with the troops inside a house if the barrage is not destroy or damage buidings?

3) do troops get cover if i shoot with barrage of any kind into a forest? can i shoot at them, even if no one can look inside the forest? who gives the position for these troops?

4) if i shoot at a eldar titan with a barrage weapon directly, then the barrage scatters because of the holofield. but what if a second, touched barrage template (such as the second from a manticore) hits the titan? does the template scatter too?

6) is it right that you can shoot at floaters with barrage weapons of any kind, but you must ad the normal 25cm to your range, for high altidute?


Snap fire before close combat.
Following situation: one land raider detachment is attacked by 2 vyper jetbike detachments. first step: in the movement phase the vypers are activated and move into cc with the land raider which are on ff. the land raider decide to shoot snap fire without penalty and blast all away. still in the movement phase the second vyper detachment moves into cc with the land raider. the lander raider can not shoot snap fire, because they did before, right?

But what about the case above if 2 vypers attack a preatorian and the preatorian shoots all vypers from the first detachment but still has some shoots left for a second. can he shoot again snap fire with the remaining weapons?


Deathstrike tactical missle launcher...rerule?
In our last battle i fielded a deathstrike tactical launcher detachment and all players considered the missiles too hard to hit because of the heavy requirements that have to be fulfilled to shoot at them while they are midair. Especially the AA requirement seems pretty over the top in conjunction with the -2 to-hit penalty. According to the statistics you need 18 shots from a Firestorm AA which are about 900 points to stop this 225 point heavy missiles and you will not get any victory points out of it.
Perhaps the missiles should be use normal flier rules. Was this rule ever been questioned?

Avatar IQ
Is the Eldar Avatar keen enough to board a Storm Serpent to get closer to an enemy if he has no one in range to charge and the shortest way would be through that portal?

Doomweaver Artillery
How are we supposed to locate the ?random? location? Roll a d6 and 1-head, 2-reactor etc. or do we have to count all zones and roll a d20+ to get the random factor right?
Anyway are Titan with a 1+ save or an Emperor Titan with X+ on 2d6 immun against the doomweaver barrage?
The webs count as impassable terrain but does it block line of sight too and if up to which height?

Bail out in buildings
Are units allowed to bail out out of buildings and if do they get the same penalty on their save as stated in the vehicle rules? Are they allowed to follow their orders after a successful bail out roll?

Model/Unit/Detachment clarification
To put this as simple as possible:
Is a model always a unit?
Is a unit always a detachment?
The rules state that a detachment is ?A group of models, that  compose a fighting group, made up of one or more models? e.g. therefore a spell/card that targets a detachment could been used against a titan?
Does a titan in a battlegroup get separated orders or do I have to put an order count for the whole battlegroup?
We had a little discussion about that matter. 

Compulsory Movement
If a unit that moves into close combat in the compulsory movement phase (e.g. Avatar) is the enemy allowed to snap fire at this unit?

Pinning Class
It is allowed to fire at a HQ unit if it
A ? closest valid target of its pinning class
B ? no target from the same size in 10cm radius
e.g. the Exarch is pinning class infantry and he is pinning class 1 which includes infantry and light artily. Would he be save from fire if a light artillery unit would be within 10cm and the first target?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 3:59 am 
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1) Only if the weapons specifically says "ignores cover"
2)Roll to hit the troops inside adding the modifier for cover
3)Yes, they get cover mod.  If no one can see them then you can't target them.
4)Second template also scatters.
5)There is no 5
6)If the unit type is eligable to fire at a Flyer then it doesn't matter if they use a barrage weapon.  Add the 25cm

- 1st Example...correct.  2nd example, if the Praetorian declared all PD would fire at first lot then he's run out of dice and can't shoot the second.  If it declared say 6 out of 12 shots then of course it can fire the second lot of 6.

- It was suggested that Deathstrikes become a Special Card (which I agreed with) but it was voted down.

- I'd say no, but not a big deal either way really....who actually uses Storm Serpents  :p   :confuse:  :laugh:

- Eldar player picks a location then roll scatter dice....drop a scrap of paper on the template from 1m high...play pin the tail on the donkey???  If the location is a 1+ no damage.  Doesn't block LoS.

- No

- Titans in a battlegroup all get seperate orders.

- Yup

- Safe from being targetted yes.

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Hi!

I agree with what Zap said. :)

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:41 pm 
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(zap123 @ Mar. 15 2008,02:59)
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do you thing it is logical that a doomweaver can not hurt a superheavy but the mightiest model the impeator titan...??? titan no shield, hit, max damage, boom...2250 points blown away???
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(darkangel @ Jun. 01 2008,15:41)
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[quote="zap123,Mar. 15 2008,02:59"][/quote]
do you thing it is logical that a doomweaver can not hurt a superheavy but the mightiest model the impeator titan...??? titan no shield, hit, max damage, boom...2250 points blown away???

Hi!

Doomweaver cannot harm any unit with an area location save of 1+.

Thus the Imperator is invulnerable to the doomweaver.

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