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[E:A] Ethics of basing scouts on Warmaster bases
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:05 pm 
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Hey all, I have an opinion question for you.

Would you think poorly of a guy whio based his Eldar Rangers on warmaster bases (40mm x 20mm) instead of the normal E:40k bases (40mm x 12mm)? I know the rules allow it, but that's not the issue.

Because of a mistake I made ordering bits from GW, I now have three times the number of warmaster bases than I need for my jetbikes, etc, so I've been looking for good places to use them. I've decided to base my support weapon platforms on them, to more easily distinguish them from the heavy weapon platforms. I also thought that a unit of Rangers would look pretty cool spread out on a bigger base, but I'm afraid I might appear to be trying to work the rules to my advantage to maximize the zone of control they get for their scout ability.

As an alternative, I'm considering keeping the rangers on the normal bases but putting my pathfinders on the bigger bases to help distiguish them from the rangers- but the same appearence of beardiness is at risk there, too.

So, what do you think - am i worrying for nothing?

What other things do you think would be good to mount on Warmaster bases? I was also considering basing my plain (no CoTYK) Avatar on one.
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As you say, the rules allow for it, and I think it'd look pretty good.

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Chap - always go for looking cool. Looking cool is the most important thing in the world.

More important than beer... well more important than barcardi at any rate. Beer is probably more important in the long run.

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It'll look cool and the rules allow it; I see no problem.

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There are trade offs no matter what you do, but nothing that make for an unfair advantage.

For instance, I base my 'nids 4 to a 20mm - 40mm base.  I don't really see any benefit I get over my opponent for this.  I may get more coverage but he gets closer targets.

In the end remember that measurements go from units on the base, not the base itself.

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Chap - always go for looking cool. Looking cool is the most important thing in the world.

More important than beer... well more important than barcardi at any rate. Beer is probably more important in the long run.

Beer just makes you more cool, your avatar is evidence of that. Those girls must have smelled the beer on you.

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Certainly for me the benefits would be neglegible enough that it wouldn't be a problem.

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(Dave @ May 15 2008,16:34)
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Beer just makes you more cool, your avatar is evidence of that. Those girls must have smelled the beer on you.

Dammit, and I thought it was my winning personality :|.

I love beer, or more accurately ale.

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I love beer, or more accurately ale.

Who doesn't?  :devil:

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As for other units, perhaps Aspects that major on FF assaults - Spiders, Hawks, Dragons, Reapers etc? It would also allow you to add some small features for them to hide behind etc. I would certainly consider using them for Shining spears - even though it would give you a slight disadvantage in getting them into CC - because my 2x bikes on the old 20x20 bases are crowded

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I would also always go with the rule of cool. I use a variety of basing for my models, with Pathfinders, Drones and Kroot on Warmaster bases.

They are more vulnerable to blast markers on larger bases.

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(Dave @ May 15 2008,17:32)
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There are trade offs no matter what you do, but nothing that make for an unfair advantage.

For instance, I base my 'nids 4 to a 20mm - 40mm base.  I don't really see any benefit I get over my opponent for this.  I may get more coverage but he gets closer targets.

In the end remember that measurements go from units on the base, not the base itself.

No. Measurment goes from ase to base for Infantry. The actualmodelsonly count for barrages to determine if a unit is under the template or not.

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Where'd you find that?  I've always gone by what is says in the Shooting Conventions Design Concept box under measuring:


The method used by the author (and the default  you   should   use   if   you   can?t   agree   to   an alternative) is that a weapon is in range if any bit of the attacking weapon is within range of  any part of the target model (or at least one of the models on a target stand).

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Semaj:  As someone likely to play against these units at some point... go for it.

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As my guard veterans are the complete opposite based 3 on a 20x5mm base I am not the best to comment. In a tournament some might find it strange and even grumble about it. But the first thing is if the rules let you, and they do, then do it. You can always do a GW and bend your fluff to match your models later.

Like I say my Guard are Veterans and so don't take up so much space as the dead wood has already been pruned, however when they bunch they are a tasty target for artillery.

Go for it and remember to post some photos for the rest of us.

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