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Epic prices vs Inflation (UK)
loofnick
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:11 am 
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Sgiuggoths are another hairy example... 1997 price ?5 for 2... 2008 price ?10 for 1....

Depends on how far back you go- old Squiggoths I've got are really small.  

In any case that's another top-priced present unit- which are clearly silly prices.  I still think the smaller vehicles might not be quite so bad.  Data please!  :D
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:15 am 
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Shame there seems to be no data around for disposable income, what with housing, fuel and energy prices through the roof.

I don't think comparing disposable income would say anything about GW price changes.   I'm sure the that data will be around somewhere on the net if you want it though, just a matter of finding one that doesn't require much deciphering.
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(Warmaster Nice @ May 13 2008,22:45)
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Sgiuggoths are another hairy example... 1997 price ?5 for 2... 2008 price ?10 for 1....

lol. now the question is (which is completely off topic!) are Squiggoths hairy, reptilian or orkish for their skin type?  I always thought they were mammoth like in my mind.... but that has lead me astray before..

ON topic, does show a marked increase in cetain areas but I suspect GW's pricing is not always linked to the materials or inflation directly (or even indirectly!) more likely to be along the lines of what do we think we can sell it for and what the maximum people will buy it for.  :;):




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Sgiuggoths are another hairy example... 1997 price ?5 for 2... 2008 price ?10 for 1....

Depends on how far back you go- old Squiggoths I've got are really small. ?

It is exactly the same miniature. I wouldn't compare the SM/TL era model as they are very different models :) However like the Reaver titan I think a quadrupeling of the exact same miniature is a bit extreme. Especially when you consider that the sculpt and moulds should have returned the investment after more than 10 years :p

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Ahh, but dont GW cost things according to their in game cost to make it fair on all players.  I mean, imagine if a SM player in 40k could get away with paying 1/2 the amount that a tau player would need to pay for an army..  How completely unfair that would be.  No, the only fair thing to do is charge ?5 per terminator, for the *ahem* game balance...

IN all seriousness that is what stands out to me about GW and Epic pricings- the Reaver is very expensive as its a big, imposing war machine and you should have to pay for that regardless of such little issues as how much it is actually worth.  Hrmmphh.

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With the current economic situation ... everthing has gone Up !  :(

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The practice of making miniature price based on game-value, rather than production costs (sculpting, molding, casting, raw materials) is a sore spot with me.
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Mind you, it can cut the other way if your keen on converting.  For example i have just put together a vey reasonably priced WFB chaos mortal army by using empire figures and theming them around a corrupted knightly order.  It was one of my prerequisites- smallest amount of models to field for the lowest cost :)

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(Warmaster Nice @ May 13 2008,22:45)
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Sgiuggoths are another hairy example... 1997 price ?5 for 2... 2008 price ?10 for 1....

Depends on how far back you go- old Squiggoths I've got are really small.  

It is exactly the same miniature. I wouldn't compare the SM/TL era model as they are very different models :) However like the Reaver titan I think a quadrupeling of the exact same miniature is a bit extreme. Especially when you consider that the sculpt and moulds should have returned the investment after more than 10 years :p

I suppose they just naturally grow as they get older.  Which solves:
... are Squiggoths hairy, reptilian or orkish for their skin type?  I always thought they were mammoth like in my mind.... but that has lead me astray before..
Obviously they are pewter skinned  :p   Oddly I see the old ones as Mammoth-like and the new as Rhino-like.  Probably cos of the horns.
ON topic, does show a marked increase in cetain areas but I suspect GW's pricing is not always linked to the materials or inflation directly (or even indirectly!) more likely to be along the lines of what do we think we can sell it for and what the maximum people will buy it for.  :;):
Fair point.  GW pricing policies obviously change.  Maybe the SM era titans were discounted, who knows? [please don't tell me who knows. And yes it was almost certainly the plastics and box set that were discounted, if anything]

Anyway the point is to measure relative expense, for which I still need more old price info. hint hint :;):  I know people have this info lurking around.

Personally I can't imagine starting Epic now, if I was 13.  Mainly due to the relative lack of plastics (price reasons), and the new rules still making you have to build over-large formations.  I only bought about 5 or 6 metal blisters back in the 90's, and chose carefully- these newer prices don't help.

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