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AMTL 3.08
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:41 pm 
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Makes sence because the Shadowswords Volcano Cannon has a short range (120") and blast radius (5") than the one on the Warlord (240" and 10" respectively).

So i guess Reaver will have Range 180"  and 7" blast radius :D

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:50 am 
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Good job a Volcano Cannon is just a Volcanon Cannon in Epic and has 1 set of stats.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:24 pm 
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Greetings Evil and Chaos,

I saw your comments over on Warseer about the Apocalyspe weapon loadouts for the new FW Reaver.

Personally, I don't see the need to create another version of the Volcano cannon...less trouble to just have one version and be done with it.

As to the Plasma Destructor..once again, I don't have a problem limiting it to the Warlord.

The Quake cannon is the one that I figure will generate the most gnashing of teeth.

Was just wondering what your thoughts were on the subject and what effect (if any) the ?Apocalyspe limits will have on Reaver weapon loadouts in the AMTL list.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:09 pm 
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Personally, I don't see the need to create another version of the Volcano cannon...less trouble to just have one version and be done with it.


Nope, I don't see the need either, I was just passing on what was happening with the 40k titan weapons.

To reiterate from Warseer:

Volcano Cannon on the Reaver will be weaker than the Warlord one (It's noteworthy that the Shadowsword Volcano Cannon is already weaker than the Warlord's one).

Plasma Destructor and Quake Cannon won't be allowed on the Reaver.

Was just wondering what your thoughts were on the subject and what effect (if any) the  Apocalyspe limits will have on Reaver weapon loadouts in the AMTL list.

I've said before, that I really like the Apocalypse weapon restrictions / list of weapons, but in the absense of a release of Epic models, there's no real driving impetus to transfer it to our list Epic:A list.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:59 am 
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(Evil and Chaos @ Apr. 07 2008,22:09)
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there's no real driving impetus to transfer it to our list Epic:A list.

I so agree with this

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:21 pm 
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Just a nit to pick...

The patterns are listed as Lucius rather than Gryphonne.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:29 pm 
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I think for unfathomable reasons, Gryphonne pattern titans will eventually bear some striking similarities to Mars pattern titans. :)


The nicely painted Reaver Titan on show by Forgeworld at their open day in War Gryphons colours has nothing to do with it! :D

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:44 pm 
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Is it time to start a new thread soon? this one is quite long!


Okay then, for 3.09 we'll have a new thread.

Admech Space craft. Are these needed? The list already uses navy in the form of T'bolts and Bombers and Im not sure how easy it is to get the models atm.

The Ad-Mech ships are currently on sale from SG.

They're SG's last ever model release in fact.

Id also argue that no one will use the Admech ships

Two games were reported today in which Ad Mech cruisers were used.


c) few ships have only pp attacks, I believe this is because there is a good chance the opposition will have no WE and the pp attacks will be wasted.

And that's part of the Tournament style experience... sometimes you'll simply have the wrong tool for the job.

This leads to my next point. Is it right that it is easier to take allies than support?

I'm going to be taking a close look at the Allies section in the next version.

If knights are added I suppose these would be allies too

That depends on the type of Knight we go for I suspect.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:23 pm 
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Don't worry E&C I think that you are doing things in the correct manor, start small and slowly add. If we can make small changes with a list revision 1 a month we should be done within the year with a balanced list. Bring on V3.09.

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