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Should Knights be allowed in the main AMTL list?
Yes 60%  60%  [ 24 ]
No 40%  40%  [ 16 ]
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Should Knights be allowed in the main AMTL list?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:29 am 
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If you can balance AMTL with knights included and without them, then yes. But without miniatures, background and role in AMTL I think it is unnecessary to include them.

Hmmm... Interesting modelling challenge to make Nurgle Knights... (I plan to use AMTL for my Nurgle Titans)

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(Mark_Logue @ Mar. 25 2008,05:09)
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I vote yes and I want all the types of knights available in the list!  I have all the knights painted to match various titans so it does strongly bias my opinion.

I'm not going to preside over another list as unnessesarily bloated as AMTL v2.

If you want all the Knights, the Knightworld army list is simply more suitable.

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I am happy to use v2 when I want to use those sorts of lists anyway.

Other better lists when appropriate

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I also thought that the AMTL v2 list was too large and complicated.

I think the Knights should be kept as a separate list

BUT

Maybe allow just Paladins (no upgades) in the list, being the most common type. (There have been plenty of the old plastic figures available on eBay)
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Can Space Marines and Imperial Guard mix? No? But they operate closely togehter. But still you can't mix them.

So Titans and Knights shouldn't be mixed too. But even when yes, only Paladins (the basic Knight) should be in the Titans army list.




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So Titans and Knights shouldn't be mixed too.


This is my own first thought.

But even when yes, only Paladins (the basic Knight) should be in the Titans army list.

If we bring Knights into the AMTL army list, I'd suspect that we'd be looking to have something more ... generic, as our AMTL Knight, than a 'Knight Paladin'.

Depending on what we decide in this vote, I'll then be looking into the variety of Knights desired (Or not, as the case may be).

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(BlackLegion @ Mar. 25 2008,16:16)
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Can Space Marines and Imperial Guard mix? No? But they operate closely togehter. But still you can't mix them.

So Titans and Knights shouldn't be mixed too. But even when yes, only Paladins (the basic Knight) should be in the Titans army list.

Well, the IG and the SM are completely different organizations.  Knights are basically sworn to serve their patron Forgeworlds.

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According to what? The old dinosaur herding fluff that's been written out of GW history?

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The old Dinosaur background wasnt written out. Knights are described as fighting for Titan Legions in all the background that there is about them. Not just the Rogue Trader background but Adeptus Titanicus too.
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"Knights don't really fit anymore so we thought we'd recycle the design"

This was in a conversation I had with Daren Parwood, on of Forgeworld's sculptors, about the proposals he was working on for future Daemon Engines (I noticed one of his concept sketches looked like a Nurgled-up Knight Warden).

Incidentally, the Nurgle-Warden looked cool!

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(Evil and Chaos @ Mar. 26 2008,20:16)
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"Knights don't really fit anymore so we thought we'd recycle the design"

This was in a conversation I had with Daren Parwood, on of Forgeworld's sculptors, about the proposals he was working on for future Daemon Engines (I noticed one of his concept sketches looked like a Nurgled-up Knight Warden).

Incidentally, the Nurgle-Warden looked cool!

Hey, if it was Alan Merritt who said it, I might take it seriously, but some sculptor? ?Sorry. ?

?I personally don't think that background material comes with an expiration date.  Didn't we just have a thread about Knight background where a consensus was reached?




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Hey, if it was Alan Merritt who said it, I might take it seriously, but some sculptor?  Sorry.  


Tony Cottrell was standing behind him nodding sagely, and as I'm sure you're aware, anything FW puts out has been approved by the core studio.

They have been denied permission to make Knights until the core studio re-imagines them (if ever).

Didn't we just have a thread about Knight background where a consensus was reached?


Nope, we had a thread where one group wanted dinosaur-herding knights, one group wanted 'low tech' ad-mech colonies, and one group didn't want them at all.

Very little consensus, which is why I put up a vote...

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Ah, sorry.  I guess I've had trouble keeping track of things.  

 I guess my point is, "do we have any responsiblity to re-imagine the Knights?"

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do we have any responsiblity to re-imagine the Knights?"


Certainly.

It's the extent to which Knights should be integrated with the AMTL list that is on the table however.


The results of the poll so far would seem to say 'A little bit'.

56% is hardly an emphatic majority, but it is a majority.

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