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Sculpted 6mm tyranid model
Meaneye
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:31 pm 
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You might want to try giving your figure a light brushing of thin superglue; it should get between the pieces and stick them together


Good idea. I could save the little pieces anyway, so I will glue them back, and I can make a few more moulds (you know, mass production...).

Also if you had a sharp razor blade you could just try cutting away the plastic to get the model out

It wasn't the problem: I had to be extra gentle with the "chitin" blobs so as not to flatten them out too much, so I did not push them down hard enough. They would have fallen off anyway. I want to cut the sheet, but first I need its flat surface for newer ?"moulds". You can see it in the second picture, the mould is perfectly flat because I also pushed the putty against the sheet. I have just inserted the first putty-blob into it, and managed to flatten the whole thing quite nicely - it had to be level with the surface, and when I pop it out tomorrow, I will not need to file its back flat or anything before sticking the two halves. By the way, I will not glue them simply against the other half, I want to glue them on a piece of the same plastic sheet. It will give them some extra width, and also some strength. I am not sure the dried putty would hold long in itself (especially the way I can transport them).

I am also working on the new Gaunt prptotype. I will actually only make the legs and the torso, then I will show it to check the scale ?:D

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:48 pm 
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Well, hello again. I have tried to "reduce" the size of the gaunt a bit for a few hours, and I found that the original sculpt was about the limit of my abilities. I was sad again. :( ?However, I had a new idea. I could have used a little help, just something to guide my hand, even if just a few lines along the body and the legs of the gaunt. I remembered from another website that regular sculpters build up the frame of the sculp first, like a skeleton. I have no idea how a gaunt skeleton might look like, but what the hell? As I had problems with making really thin lines from putty, I thought I would use a substitute: fishing line. I put a little putty under them because the superglue would just make a mess (I can't pour out little enough and there was a risk of getting my finger glued to the sheet as well). The result is shown below. It is not much, I know, but at least I can ask whether the final result will be the right scale (I was surprised how flat the IG soldier's nose actually is. Is it supposed to be a rebreather or something?).

So is it a better scale now? The "head" is missing, and the thing on the right side is the tail. The finished sculpt will be slightly higher because of the chitin.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:34 am 
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Looks about the right size to me :)

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:53 am 
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I think they were a bit smaller, but that would do the trick (if different hivefleets have different geneseeds, why should all gaunts be the same size?).

Keep up the good work! :)

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:11 pm 
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Hello again. Here is the new picture; the progress does not seem to be much, but I had to stop to let the putty dry. After taking the picture, I made the shin and the tail a little thinner by scrapping away a little putty. Next to it is a prototype-head. It kind of resembles the original, I guess, but I am not planning to sculpt it eyes or mouth. The next step will be the carapace and the weapon, but I need your opinion first.

1) Is the head the right size? One minute it looks OK to me, the next minute it looks small.

2) What about the weapon? In my first picture, it was just an unsophisticated blob, but it was OK. I don't feel like trying the original weapon. (here is the link for the original figure: Tyranid page)

3) What about the middle arm? The claws on the original figure are beyond my ability (at least if I want them to look good). My solution on the prototype was to make the arm down to the elbow, then I made the rest of the arm look like a cable that attached to the main weapon. It works, and it makes the body more "bulky", which will be useful later.

So what do you think?
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Meaneye
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And it's me again. I am getting ready with the torsos. I made five of them, and the next step will be to sculpt on the chitinous thigh and the back carapace. It turned out that it is enough to spread a little superglue on the sheet (not the liquid type, but the gel), it will hold the soft putty, and I can still shape it, so I will not need any more fishing line. The bodies look rough, but the carapace will cover most of it.
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Keep up the good work :)

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:13 pm 
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Hello everybody!

I have added the thigh and the back carapace. Both of them are just two blobs of putty; I made two cuts on the thigh to imitate chitin, and I made two deep cuts on the top of the back carapace. After posting this, I will start working on the heads. I wasn't sure what to do with the head carapace (it would have been too small to work on with a sculpting tool), but I have just seen the thread "A Beautiful (Hive) Mind" from Warmaster Nice, and I could see a painted termagaunt from above. It turned out that I did not need to cut the heads for the chitinous effect as the original figures had small chitin crests, and their heads were "bald" and smooth (at least that's the way I see them; see page 17 in the thread). I can make the head just a blob, and in the final stage leave some of the plastic sheet above the head to represent the crest.

The hands will probably resemble my first prototypes, that is, the first arm will meld into the weapon, and the second arm will be just a "feeder cable" attached to the gun.

Also, I have finally made three tyranid warriors, and as you said they were OK, I will put them together tomorrow.

By the way, the amount of putty I had to use at a given stage was ridiculously small, and it just did not want to stick. I had to put a little gelatinous superglue under each blob to make it remain in place. It is important, otherwise the gaunts will fall apart after taking a mould.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:51 pm 
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getting there bro, really starting to look like somthin now!

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:40 pm 
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Good evening, everybody!

Today I finished three tyranid warriors. The picture shows how I cut the sheet around the two parts after assembling. The most difficult part was to cut out the sheet between the claws; I had to drill it first to make room for the blade.

I left a little of the sheet around the legs, and I cut out round parts from a 0.5mm placticard. I cut them in half, and I glued them under the legs. I now have three warriors ready to be glued on a base.

If you want a step-to-step tutorial, tell me, and I build a new one with pictures.

Sorry about the picture; I am still experimenting with editing. :blush:
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Meaneye
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:23 pm 
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Hello everybody!

The gaunts are getting their final shape. They will not get any better than that (I am not happy about the heads), but a proxy is a proxy. If I have time during the weekend (which I will not), I will finish the middle arms. They will be just cable-like feeders joining the weapon, and I will put "carapace" on the elbows. Once it is ready, all I have to do is repeat the same process on the other side of the sheet, but at least I will be able to see the guidelines, so it will be easier.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:12 pm 
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Looking forward to seeing some painted versions, I think they they are great! :)

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:33 pm 
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Hello everybody!

There isn't going to be any new pictures for a few days. I have finished one side of the termagaunts, (I put elbow-guards on the arms, and I attached a cable to the weapon) and I now have to sculpt the other side as well, which will take some time. I'll be back as soon as I have sculpted the other half.
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Meaneye
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:59 pm 
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Hello everybody!

Well, there was no update for more than two weeks (apparently, there have been some celebrations on the planet :laugh: ). Happy New Year, by the way :D .

Anyway, the other half of the gaunt sculpts is ready. I will follow Chroma's advice, and I will drybrush both sides with superglue to get the blobs stuck together, then I will make at least one pair of moulds. If the sculpts survive, I will try to make three moulds, which means I could theoretically make three stands' worth of gaunt warriors a day if I  fill the moulds with green stuff in the evening, and pop out the dried putty the following day.

Let's see the picture, and let's talk about the future. I am now more or less confident that is is possible to make (acceptable) proxy tyranid figures. The next task is to make sculpts for the other 'nid infantry types: gargoyles, termagaunts, raveners and genestealers. The method would be the same: first a 'skeleton' to determine the posing, then building up the torso, the carapace, the limbs and the weapons on the arms. Which should be the first attempt?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:48 pm 
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(Chroma @ Nov. 26 2007,17:00)
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(Meaneye @ Nov. 26 2007,21:52)
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this is the problem with putting a figure together one blob of putty a time - it will not fuse together

You might want to try giving your figure a light brushing of thin superglue; it should get between the pieces and stick them together... just don't use a brush you plan on ever using again and make sure there's no moisture on the putty!

You can also try gap-filling superglue.  It creeps into the recesses rather quickly and avoids the brush.  Just keep the nose of the bottle clean as it cures quickly.

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