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[All] Heavy Weapon Platform transport
Charad
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:40 pm 
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Serpents transport ability increased by 2, so that is extra space platform takes.

I would agree that I woudn't pay those extra points, it is mainly FF unit when used in serpents, so that extra shots ain't so great.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:42 pm 
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Hmm no transport capacity for Serpents should remain at 2 and the Heavy Weapons Platforms should occupy 1 space.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:45 pm 
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How about 'Each Serpent may carry X infantry units and Y heavy weapons platforms'?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:49 pm 
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Yes. 1 Infantry and 1 Heavy Weapon :)

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:52 pm 
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Yes, if transporting platforms should be allowed it would be simpliest to make them use just onepoint of transport capacity.

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Maybe: "Two infantry stands, one of which may be a Heavy Weapon Platform"?

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Yes :)

On a side note: Wraithguard in Wh40k can be transported in Serpents too. But they require double the space = 1 Unit max per Serpent in Epic.

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Hmmm, 7serpents, 3 WGs and guardians what a FF unit! If transporting wraith guards would be alllowed, I'll think they would be real fun, but cost issues would limit their usage pretty much.

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Yep. Would be +350pts only for the Serpents :D

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And 650 for total. :D

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for 18 x 4+ FF, 1 x 5+ FF and 3 x 4+ MW FF and all the armour RA (using current rules), might be worth it
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(BlackLegion @ Aug. 17 2007,19:42)
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Hmm no transport capacity for Serpents should remain at 2 and the Heavy Weapons Platforms should occupy 1 space.

That's increase by two 40k models, so twelve individual troopers, not, a total of, *four* EPIC bases!  *laugh*

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So the solution closest to 40k would be:

'Each Serpent may carry 2 infantry units and 1 heavy weapons platform'

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:36 am 
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Yes to transport, 1 space. Also possibly yes to transport in Vampire while you are at it, 1 space.

No points changes are necessary. The most effective usage of Wave Serpent transport for Guardians would not make platforms an attractive option. Ie the preferred tactic amongst vet eldar players that I see, is a 50cm engage from behind cover, 11 units at FF4+ plus farseer, and then hop back to where they started from with hit and run.  Maybe a platform or two to provides a little flexibility but it hurts the primary tactic with little real benefit (you get 30 BM laying capability with the serpents anyway).

No mandatory upgrades of including platforms - as Chroma said this would just annoy many players by forcing them to buy units for something that is a core formation.


On the subject of Wraithguard at 2 transport slots each - not without serious work addressing the balance issues first.

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