Under the current ERC revision proposals for Eldar, the titans have taken quite a downgrade in their effectiveness.
Before the revision, there were already requests to reduce the points of Warlocks and Phantoms, with an acknowledgement that Revenants were overpowered and thus suffering from the opposite problem.
Now with the revisions Eldar Titans have taken the following downgrades: 1. They no longer have spirit stones, which means they are suppressed and broken more easily (a particular problem given their very low DC per points ratio). 2. The pulsars are much less effective on sustained fire, less effective on normal orders, and slightly better when doubling. Overall the potential damage dealing ability has been substantially reduced. 3. The Revenant has taken a further downgrade with a reduction in it's pulse lasers to hit number from 3+ to 4+.
With all these downgrades there have been persistent murmurings that Eldar Titans just don't cut it anymore, especially the Revenants and Phantoms, but also the Warlock. Furthermore it is worth noting that at the same time the Eldar Titans have been significantly downgraded, Imperial Reavers and Warlords have received a major range boost (+15cm to turbo lasers and vulcan megabolter), and Ork Titans have received improved macro-weapon barrages.
With a 50 point drop, points savings would be in the 5-10% range as follows: Revenant: 7.7%, Phantom: 6.7%, Warlock: 5.9%.
One further point is that the interaction with aircraft formations in typical 3K Tournament lists would also be affected. For instance a player taking titans would have the following options before and after the points drop:
Revenants Before: Vampire, Nightwings. After: Vampires, Nightwing, Phoenix Phantom Before: Vampire. After: Vampire, Nightwing. Warlock Before: Nothing. After:Vampire.
Thus an increased variety in potential 3K army lists tournament scene would be a further factor to consider.
The last ERC evaluation on this points drop idea was to take a 'wait and see' approach and wait for further feedback. This poll is to assess what people at Epicomms now think about Eldar Titans under the current ERC revisions, and whether this points drop is warranted.
So vote and have your say: 1. No change 2. Yes, 50 point drop to Revenants, Phantoms, Warlocks 3. Yes, but differential drop in points (state below)
For my own part I abstained on this issue first time around, but I now think that this points drop would be a good idea. Definitely for the Revenants and Phantom, and I don't think it would hurt on the Warlock either. I think the increased potential range of titan/aircraft compositions in tournament lists would also be a good thing.
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