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SM1 "Haywire" Missile - EMP Blast ! |
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Post subject: SM1 "Haywire" Missile - EMP Blast ! Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:14 pm |
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We still use the AT1/SM1 Haywire missile. Everything under the burst template is hit with EMP. Fries all the electronics in Vehicles rendering them KO'd. It will do the same to Robots ... but will it effect Androids ? Like DRM's ? Just bit of a Technical/sci-fi question ...
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Warmaster Nice
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Post subject: SM1 "Haywire" Missile - EMP Blast ! Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:06 pm |
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I'd tend to say yes. Robots, androids and even cyborgs will probably burn out. In case of cyborgs with organic parts I suspect the neuon interfaces between the body parts will probably overload. Besides a cyborg with the robotic parts destroyed probably won't be of much use anyway  Come to think of it: Would it make sense to have regular organic units (Bio titans, squiggoths etc) affected by the haywire missile as well? Is the missile specifically an EMP blast or a mixture of various effects that will wreck havoc to elecrtical systems? A huge electrical discharge is bound to be bad for anybody's nervous system IMO 
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Post subject: SM1 "Haywire" Missile - EMP Blast ! Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:41 pm |
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Well, I agree wth you about the Robots, androids, 'borgs, etc. ... But the rules say only mechanical devices ... however IIRC Dreads are not effected ! The EMP is like what occurs with a nuclear blast ... The stuff that ain't NUC'd, gets it's circuits "cooked". I guess DRM Andys could have super surge protectors ?
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CyberShadow
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Post subject: SM1 "Haywire" Missile - EMP Blast ! Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:32 am |
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Joined: Thu Jan 02, 2003 6:22 pm Posts: 9350 Location: Singapore
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EMP blasts would affect organic components if it hit with sufficient force, and it would need something very powerful. However, electrical networks act as a lightning rod and channel the blast along paths of least resistance, where it then hits vulnerable systems such as capacitors, which then blow.
I would say that an EMP blast would affect anything mechanical, but would not be powerful enough for organic forms. Of course, if you are a cyborg and one leg stops working, that could be enough!
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Legion 4
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Post subject: SM1 "Haywire" Missile - EMP Blast ! Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:51 am |
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Yep, That's the way I figure it ... I remember the Instructors at our NBC training talking about, radios, vehicles, etc., etc. would be nothing but big paper weights ... not that it would matter ... The rules say, "any vehicles under the template ... are destroyed ..." "... no effect on Infantry ..." pg. 55, SM1 Rules ("The Black Book"). But IIRC, bikes and Dreads were considered "Infantry targets" ... So I'm torn between, DRM/Chaos Androids/etc. being considered Infantry or vehicles ?? If we consider them Vehicles (for Haywire purposes), we'd have to consider Dreads as Vehicles ... Oh my ! 
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CyberShadow
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Post subject: SM1 "Haywire" Missile - EMP Blast ! Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:11 am |
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Well technically, I am sure that Dreadnoughts would be affected, and bikes would be reduced to pedaling! It was probably ruled that they were not affected to streamline the rules - I mean, where do you stop? Dreads are affected. Bikes? Sentinels? Jump packs? Terminator armour?
You should keep in mind that electrical systems would be affected, mechanical systems would not. Therefore, bikes probably wouldnt.
I guess you have a few choices:
- not affected, since they are in the same category as other units
- affected, with some background about how they are more sensative to elctrical surges, sensors or somesuch
- invent a new category, including dreads, bikes, sentinels, robots, etc as an exception
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Legion 4
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Post subject: SM1 "Haywire" Missile - EMP Blast ! Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:02 am |
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Yes, we thought about that ... so we basically only use it on Vehicles ! I figured it would only effect electrical devices, not mechanical ... But as you noted many things have electrical sub-systems ... SMs would be especially vulnerable as would DRM Andys ... So we'll just leave it as is ... Thanks for the incites WMN & C/S ... you are a well learned crew ! 
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