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Thunderhawk Transporters!!!
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 Post subject: Thunderhawk Transporters!!!
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:53 pm 
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All right, settle down Blarg, settle down.  What's the big deal?

[Squealing girl's voice] Forge World is going to do an Epic version of the Thunderhawk Transporter!!! [/Squealing girl's voice]

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:21 pm 
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It looks cool, but it's too big.  It makes titans look silly.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:21 pm 
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Ooh, look at the prettyness...  :)

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:25 pm 
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(Bombot @ Sep. 26 2006,15:21)
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It looks cool, but it's too big.  It makes titans look silly.

It's correctly in scale with the Epic range... It's supposed to carry two Rhinos underneath the hull after all!

The SG Thunderhawks are so small they're a joke... how they're supposed to fit 40 Marines (Or Dreadnoughts!) inside them I've no idea.

It's still smaller than a Marine Lander.



You can just about see the two Resin Rhinos under one in this shot: http://www.ageofstrife.com/albums/Spack93/IMG_1907.jpg




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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:16 pm 
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(Evil and Chaos @ Sep. 26 2006,15:25)
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(Bombot @ Sep. 26 2006,15:21)
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It looks cool, but it's too big.  It makes titans look silly.

It's correctly in scale with the Epic range... It's supposed to carry two Rhinos underneath the hull after all!

Yes and no.

It might be an exact "scale down" of the 40K version but Epic models don't follow an exact scaling (and never have).  Larger models are scaled down at a higher ratio.  In particular, aircraft and titans are out of proportion, noticably smaller, than what they would be on a straight conversion.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:28 pm 
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(Evil and Chaos @ Sep. 26 2006,15:25)
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It's correctly in scale with the Epic range... It's supposed to carry two Rhinos underneath the hull after all!

I realise that, but because you look down on the games table, it kind of works to have the aircraft in a smaller scale.  It might be ok to have aircraft in the right scale but then there's no getting around the fact that the titans are completely out of scale with everything else.  I'd rather stick to a 'consistently' distorted scale.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:43 pm 
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(Bombot @ Sep. 26 2006,11:28)
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I'd rather stick to a 'consistently' distorted scale.

Me too.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:54 pm 
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Or we could just get FW to make us some really big-ass Titans! :D
Seriously, though those Thunderhawks do look huge. Probably won't stop me buying some though...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:59 pm 
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Bigger FW titans.... Now there's an idea... :;):

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 5:19 pm 
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I prefer having the aircraft in-scale with the tanks and infantry.


There used to be a gradual scale upwards, but over the years everything is being brought to 6mm scale, first the tanks (Initially with SG scaling some of them up, then FW completing the range of true 6mm tanks), now the aircraft (FW only).

Only the titans remain at 1:500 scale instead of at 1:300 like the rest of Epic... and probably will do since having fullscale Titans would be (although awesome) highly expensive!

A Warlord at 6mm scale would stand the same height as a 40k scale Warhound! (11 inches tall!)


So yeah, Titans, probably not, but there's no reason why the rest of the range shouldn't be consistant (And better looking).



Edit:

I expect the sliding scale was only instituted due to early-gw production limits anyway.




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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:00 pm 
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See my comments on the G-Day post ... :D  As far as scale goes, since SM1, and F/W making Epic ... it's gone from 6mm to 8 ?!   But we  justify that by making them different Mk.s, Types, Versions, etc. ... F/W Valks & Vuls are twice the size of G/Ws !  So those are Type B's ... F/W's SH IG AFVs are bigger than G/W's !  Hence a different version !  G/W's Russes are bigger than F/W's ... another version !  It's a BIG Galaxy !  And History is full of this sort of thing.  Look at the AFVs in 1940 vs. those in '44 !   But that being said, it's just rationalization ... G/W & FW should be on the same OPLAN !   :D

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:02 pm 
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See my comments on the G-Day post ... :D  As far as scale goes, since SM1, and F/W making Epic ... it's gone from 6mm to 8 ?!   But we  justify that by making them different Mk.s, Types, Versions, etc. ... F/W Valks & Vuls are twice the size of G/Ws !  So those are Type B's ... F/W's SH IG AFVs are bigger than G/W's !  Hence a different version !  G/W's Russes are bigger than F/W's ... another version !  It's a BIG Galaxy !  And History is full of this sort of thing.  Look at the AFVs in 1940 vs. those in '44 !   But that being said, it's just rationalization ... G/W & FW should be on the same OPLAN !   :D

If they're another version of the aircraft, then those aircraft must be piloted by six year-old children. :)


The FW versions are correctly scaled... that's the size real aircraft tend to be!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:08 pm 
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If they're another version of the aircraft, then those aircraft must be piloted by six year-old children. :)


The FW versions are correctly scaled... that's the size real aircraft tend to be!

It?s just that because aircraft are usually seen in the distance from below, we associate them with being smaller than they are.  On the table top, they are actually bigger to the eye than the ground units (being on flying stands).  Correct scale aircraft thus look kind of weird, even without the titan scale issue (which is the main one, imo).

If you?re doing a diorama, then you?re going to want the right scale aircraft.  But for games I think the messed up scale makes sense.

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I don't get that feeling at all really (vis a vis perspective) ... SG aircraft just look dinky to me.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:21 pm 
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I do agree, but I guess I'd rather have the dinky aircraft than dinky titans.  Well, the titans are dinky anyway, but no need for a thunderhawk to come along and really embarass them!

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