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Q: How do you make a small fortune in the game industry?

A: Start with a large one.

*I* think it's funny anyways... :laugh:

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Question: has Chaos in 40k moved away from cultist-type armies?  I'm not overly familiar with the current 40k scene so I'm not sure.

Anyway, if it has, is it really surprising if Epic won't adopt the Lost and Damned list officially?

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Quote (Dwarf Supreme @ 08 May 2006 (15:03))
Quote (Heresiarch @ 08 May 2006 (19:53))
Q: How do you make a small fortune in the game industry?

A: Start with a large one.

*I* think it's funny anyways... :laugh:

I think's it's funny, also. ?:D

Hi!

Yup, this is a personal favorite of mine.  :;):

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Quote (CyberShadow @ 08 May 2006 (19:14))
The thing which worries me the most, is the implication that only 'official' lists will have miniatures produced for them, and that if miniatures cant be released then the list is in some way less official.

A direct comparison is 40k where I believe not all the models for lists are produced?

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The thing which worries me the most, is the implication that only 'official' lists will have miniatures produced for them, and that if miniatures cant be released then the list is in some way less official.

A direct comparison is 40k where I believe not all the models for lists are produced?

Not that I disagree, but to have examples for another conversation I am having:

What 40k official list does not have minis available for all the basic models in the list?

Thanks in advance.

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um, didn't one chap advertise his grey knights with thunder hammers here a while back? He made them himsef as they are otherwise unavailible?

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Quote (The_Real_Chris @ 08 May 2006 (22:04))
um, didn't one chap advertise his grey knights with thunder hammers here a while back? He made them himsef as they are otherwise unavailible?

OK, Is that different from the Close Combat Terminators with the hammers? I guess so. Cool.  :D

Any others you can think of? Would love to haev a few to use as examples if you can think of any more.

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Quote (dafrca @ 09 May 2006 (05:06))
Not that I disagree, but to have examples for another conversation I am having:

What 40k official list does not have minis available for all the basic models in the list?

Thanks in advance.

dafrca

I think that this comes up most commonly with commanders - since they have access to Wargear options, which make producing every combination very difficult.

Also, things like a specific Exarch with weapons fit options (it was the previous version of the list, can someone confirm that Exarchs get weapons options in the new Codex?).

Also, the main ones are things like Tyranid Winged Warriors (Elite selection in the Codex) (an option in the Codex, but no minis exist - and certainly not when the Codex was released).

The new Winged FW Tyranid Rippers (troops choice) are to cover a gap that GW have not filled in the ? years since the Tyranid Codex was released.

EDIT: And then, of course, there are the 40K Chaos Cultists!  :D  Yes, you could convert some IG troopers, but surely the Chaos Codex should be 'fan based' and excluded from tournaments because it doesnt have a complete mini range!!! What kind of reception would that get from 40K players?  ???

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Quote (Hena @ 08 May 2006 (19:31))
I think that to them the official means that new players can get hold of the minis.

That is fair enough, but it is sending out a negative message. A GW sanctioned event, does not allow L&D forces because the list is 'fan based'. This may mean that there are no minis available for it, but the implication is that the list is somehow a 'secondary list' - and so what does this tell the organisers of other events like this?

As for Tau being OK... well that is only half the battle, since there are also Tyranids and Necrons, but since SG have publicly stated that FW releases should not be included in SG core lists, I dont think that this will make much difference.

The question here is: If SG are unable to release (for example) a full range of Tyranid minis, does this mean that the list will never be more than 'fan based' and partially unrecognised at all future official tournaments?

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What is amusing to me is that right now the L&D, CSM and Tyranid models are all equally available from GW (as in not at all). ?So shouldn't all those lists be removed from the tournament. ?Each of the lists right now have units that GW has never made.

I am just taking it all in stride. ?Like I said on the SG forum none of this is a surprise to me. ?At least I have a L&D list that I can play with in my own games be it "official" or not.

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Quote (Bombot @ 08 May 2006 (18:09))
Question: has Chaos in 40k moved away from cultist-type armies? ?I'm not overly familiar with the current 40k scene so I'm not sure.

Short answers: yes
Chaos armies are mainly Chaos Space Marines varients (and have been since the 2nd Ed 40k codex was released, like 10 years ago).

That said, I think that Lost and the Damned (a sort-of cultist list) from the Eye of Terror codex is also popular for those who like to convert. However, I think far more people play the CSMs than LoD.

Quote (The_Real_Chris @ 08 May 2006 (22:02))
A direct comparison is 40k where I believe not all the models for lists are produced?

Well, that was certainly true in 2nd Ed, but more recently the holes have been filling in. I suppose it is more true if you consider weapon option availability (like powerblades for the banshee exarch, etc), but modelwise, most models are there. This is especially true of the "new" armies, like Tau and Necrons, which have complete lines.

Really the only list that sticks out in my mind as lacking anything major is the ork list, which has been without its main transport and main battle tank for a long time. Ork players will probably have to wait until their next codex update (rumored to be next year, along with rumors of Ork vehicles sprues that will allow modelers to built any of the ork vehicles from one or a combination of sprues).

Quote (CyberShadow @ 09 May 2006 (06:38))
...but since SG have publicly stated that FW releases should not be included in SG core lists, I dont think that this will make much difference.

I actually think they dropped that position after they were restructured (didn't the hell talon make it into the CSM list?). Similarly, I believe FW also makes winged tyranid warriors for 40k.

Aside:
What I find wierd is that if the chaos infantry sprue is identical to the E:40k sprue (or least least as similar as the current Eldar sprue is) then there are going to be lots of unused cultists. I forget, were there beastmen on that sprue? If there are, they'll go unused, too.

I wonder if they'll try to remaster the sprue and take out the cultists. I somehow doubt they'll go to that much trouble.
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Quote (semajnollissor @ 09 May 2006 (09:50))
didn't the hell talon make it into the CSM list?.

Yes the Helltalon did make the list but the Hellblade did not. ?Originally FW was asked if they were producing a CSM fighter model (Hellblade) since they had made a 40k CSM Hellblade and had made an epic version of the 40k CSM Helltalon. ?Well FW said they didn't have any plans to. ?So Zac went on with the Swiftdeath fighter in the CSN list. ?Of course as it turns out FW released an epic version of the Hellblade right as the list was being turned in so the Hellblade did not make it into the CSM EA list. ?But you could substitute the Hellblade for the Swiftdeath.

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There are no GW drop pods, only the FW models, and it is a standard option in the SM Codex.

Which really honks me off because I have a spiffy drop-pod army that I got cheap off a former GW employee.  I'd love to have the actual pods to go with it, but I'm not spending $400 on FW models to do it...

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Which really honks me off because I have a spiffy drop-pod army that I got cheap off a former GW employee. ?I'd love to have the actual pods to go with it, but I'm not spending $400 on FW models to do it...

I think GW actually has some templates to make drop pod up on the SM section of their website. They look nearly identical to the FW ones (meaning they should be relatively easy to make, since their are few reounded parts).
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