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Another unsatisfying Ebay experience

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:21 pm 
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Quote (Tas @ 22 Feb. 2006 (04:00))
I try to do exactly that Jimbo,
but using your example it jumped from $11 to $20.01 in the last seconds.
On all of them.
More than slightly peeving eh?

I guess I was getting excited about getting some models which nobody here has had spare to trade. ?But losing for a matter of cents is bloody annoying

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I think what irks you is not that loss, but that the win was by the minimum.

Those no helping that on ebay. Just bid you maximum. If they beat you by one cent, so be it. Unless you want to snipe as well there's no helping this.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:24 pm 
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Quote (Dwarf Supreme @ 22 Feb. 2006 (10:21))
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I feel your pain, brother. Getting outbid in the final hour can be really annoying, but as others have said, set your max bid and live with it and just because someone outbid you by $.01 doesn't mean that his max bid was only $.01 higher than yours. I got outbid yesterday for all those Titan heads that were up for auction. Yes, I want them, but I'm not willing to shell out big bucks for them.

However, something has occurred to me. Since you have some Titan bits I want and I don't currently have anything you want, I can try to win something off ebay that you're looking for and use that for trade. Sound like a plan? ????

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Thats the essence of this sort of thing. If it was worth lets say 20  dollars to me. I bid 20 dollars as my high bid. If I lose with a high bid of 20.01, I dont mind becuase its worth only 20 bucks to me.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:26 pm 
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My attitude to EBay has changed over the last six months or so. It no longer represents a place to get what I want for a bargain. I will sometimes put in a bid to see if I get lucky on something, but if there is something that I really want, then I have to be prepares to pay real money for it. This is why I rarely buy stuff that is not OOP - I would often prefer to pay the market proce. At least you know what you are getting and most of the time the final price is not much cheaper anyway.

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Bingo. This is why my primarchload was NOT built via e-bay. Its NOT a place for bargains anymore concerning epic. Those days are long gone. I buy other things via ebay that I know I will get a good discount, but not epic.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:32 pm 
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My attitude to EBay has changed over the last six months or so. It no longer represents a place to get what I want for a bargain. I will sometimes put in a bid to see if I get lucky on something, but if there is something that I really want, then I have to be prepares to pay real money for it. This is why I rarely buy stuff that is not OOP - I would often prefer to pay the market proce. At least you know what you are getting and most of the time the final price is not much cheaper anyway.

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Bingo. This is why my primarchload was NOT built via e-bay. Its NOT a place for bargains anymore concerning epic. Those days are long gone. I buy other things via ebay that I know I will get a good discount, but not epic.

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I don't necessarily agree. I think you can get a bargain sometimes, depending on your definition of "bargain." A few months ago I won an auction for 19 plastic paladins and my winning price was around $14 US. I thought that was a pretty good bargain. I have also won an auction for 72 rhinos for about $15 US and a SM2 era Great Gargant for $5 US.





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I think what irks you is not that loss, but that the win was by the minimum.

What you also have to bear in mind when something like this happens is that you dont just get beaten by a small amount. Sure, that is what shows, but whatever you are prepared to bid, if you have lost it, it is fairly sure that the winner would have kept bidding higher.

It is frustrating when I dont win because of a bid 50p higher than my max, but the winner was probably prepared to go a lot higher than that, and then I guess that they earned the win.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:03 am 
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Yeah, I got sniped out of three unpunched Epic 40K boxed sets this past month (anyone have an extra they want to sell??).  Twice it was by cents, but on one there were a couple of snipers duking it out and the box reached a ridiculous sum in seconds.  

It wouldn't have bothered me too much, except that I've vowed not to get back into Epic unless I can land one of those starter sets.  O cruel Fate, why hast thou denied me yet again?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:51 am 
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My attitude to EBay has changed over the last six months or so. It no longer represents a place to get what I want for a bargain. I will sometimes put in a bid to see if I get lucky on something, but if there is something that I really want, then I have to be prepares to pay real money for it. This is why I rarely buy stuff that is not OOP - I would often prefer to pay the market proce. At least you know what you are getting and most of the time the final price is not much cheaper anyway.

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Bingo. This is why my primarchload was NOT built via e-bay. Its NOT a place for bargains anymore concerning epic. Those days are long gone. I buy other things via ebay that I know I will get a good discount, but not epic.

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I don't necessarily agree. I think you can get a bargain sometimes, depending on your definition of "bargain." A few months ago I won an auction for 19 plastic paladins and my winning price was around $14 US. I thought that was a pretty good bargain. I have also won an auction for 72 rhinos for about $15 US and a SM2 era Great Gargant for $5 US.

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Those ARE pretty good I must admit. I would have paid any of those prices with a grinning face.

Point taken and proven.  :)

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I think what irks you is not that loss, but that the win was by the minimum.

What you also have to bear in mind when something like this happens is that you dont just get beaten by a small amount. Sure, that is what shows, but whatever you are prepared to bid, if you have lost it, it is fairly sure that the winner would have kept bidding higher.

It is frustrating when I dont win because of a bid 50p higher than my max, but the winner was probably prepared to go a lot higher than that, and then I guess that they earned the win.

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Very true. That is why I dont mind being outbid this way. Becuase as you state, no matter what I may bid, someone like this will go "one higher" until he succeeds.

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I guess the thing that bugs me about sniping is that it just *feels* lecherous and underhanded.  Why someone should have to wait until the last three seconds rather than put their bid out there loud and proud...

This is one reason why I like gunbroker.com -- they have an anti-sniping rule, so any bid made in the last fifteen minutes of the auction automatically extends that auction by fifteen minutes.

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I'm not familiar with gunbroker.
Is it any good. Does it have the range of goodies ebay does?

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Quote (Tas @ 24 Feb. 2006 (01:32))
I'm not familiar with gunbroker.
Is it any good. Does it have the range of goodies ebay does?

I've never heard of them either. I'm wondering the same thing.

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I guess the thing that bugs me about sniping is that it just *feels* lecherous and underhanded. ?Why someone should have to wait until the last three seconds rather than put their bid out there loud and proud...

This is one reason why I like gunbroker.com -- they have an anti-sniping rule, so any bid made in the last fifteen minutes of the auction automatically extends that auction by fifteen minutes.

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Oh, no qusestion. One feels "jipped" in a very ungratefying way.

But in reality its not illegal or really morally reprehensible.

Its just annoying... in an annoying sort of way...  :;):  :D

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:53 pm 
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Quote (Jimbo @ 22 Feb. 2006 (07:29))
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How do you bid?

I usually decide how much I want to spend, my real maximum, bid that amount and then leave it.

For example if my maximum bid was AU$20 and the current bid was AU$9, eBay would raise the bid to only AU$10.

If someone comes along near the end and snipes at AU$11 I would still win the auction.

Just bidding AU$10 could mean I could lose the auction.

Only a thought.

Ditto

I rarely raise my initial bid.

If someone bids more than me then they want it more. At that point I curse loudly but usually walk away from auction.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:59 pm 
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I guess the thing that bugs me about sniping is that it just *feels* lecherous and underhanded. ?Why someone should have to wait until the last three seconds rather than put their bid out there loud and proud...

This is one reason why I like gunbroker.com -- they have an anti-sniping rule, so any bid made in the last fifteen minutes of the auction automatically extends that auction by fifteen minutes.

I agree

That is why i wont use snipe despite the huge amount of stuff I buy off ebay. It just does nt "feel" the right way to go about things. But if someone else wants to use it then fine by me.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:53 pm 
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Despite the snipers and high prices, you can still land some amazing deals.  I once bid $70 for all new Epic Armageddon stuff - 4 thunderhawks, 1 landing craft, 2 reaver titans, 12 Land Raiders, and a bunch of whirlwinds, hunters, predators, bikes, and (can't remember, something else).  Nobody else bid for some weird reason and the seller was furious.  He charged me $20 in shipping but I figured I saved about $150 that day.

Sometimes you catch the fish...

The prices things go for are indicative of the cold hard reality that there is still a high demand for Epic stuff and a limited supply.

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