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Whats your favourite Tau formation?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:52 am 
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Any reason really.

For me it is by far and away pathfinders (and I didn't realise they had sniper!).

Nt only a 'cool' name, they have an elite special forces feel to them.

Though a touch fragile they have reasonable armour, great firepower and can double as a garrisson force. Not to mention skimmer can move out of dangerous terrain with no penalty (I think) alloing me to deploy inside cities and the like with little fear.

A side piont, does anyone ever not take their transports?

Edit - Runner up

Hammerhead, Ion. Excellent flak deterant, good anti infantry digging out ability, pop up attacks + AT is a good laugh.

Indeed I'd be tempted to have an army of Hammerheads backed up with pathfinders and a few Barracuda :)

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:18 am 
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Stingrays. Ignore Cover is just too good to resist. I fondly remember the time they cost 200 for four...  :alien:

(I always take the transports for Pathfinders.)


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:59 am 
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TRC,

I like the Tau. There are too many things I like about the Tau in general so I'll "try" to curtail my opinions just from an E:A list perspective here.

I have favorites in each category (obviously, I like the list) and my top spot choices are things that just work for me in efficency, effectiveness, and points.

...and yes, I like the pathfinders too - and I don't want to see their points change - but they are definitely not my 'favorite' E:A tau formation overall. You'll have to read below to see which one is. ;)

NAVY:
Barracudas - I like 3 for the price, I like the delivery on the field, the fighter status gives them manouvrability, and whatever job I relagate to them in the latter half of the turn, they are usually reliable.
Runner-Up:
AX-1-0 for the two rail shots until recently. With the new look that CS is working up, just don't know where this is going to go. From the fluff - this plane rocks hands down and would be in the top spot, but E:A just isn't kind to this plane, and it doesn't look like its getting any better, so for core design - it will at least make my runner up category.

SHT:
Moray - for the looming firepower and fear it puts in my opponent when they don't know where I'll planet fall
Runner-Up:
None to date. I think the Tau superheavies require some work. I don't like the Scorpion or Dragonfish yet. I think they are both over priced. I don't get enough opportunities to field the Manta so cannot make an educated call there... however, in points, I'd rather field two mantas than pay the extra pennies for the manta's cargo capacity. On paper, I just can't justify the Manta - we'll see though. It may eventually make a runner up.

MBT:
HH (either variant) and AMHC over contingent probably for access to network drones. I like these for their effectiveness and solid role in the army that I just cannot seem to get the E:A Tau to work the way I want them too without. So, these tend to be the 'core' workhorse of my armies. I guess these are actually my "Favorite" units overall out of the E:A Tau.
Runner-UP:
Swordfish - for the quality and reliability, background, and scare factor - price and use of upgrade are its downside. However, recent 2 for 25 change we are going to try is encouraging, but they will never make the top spot in this category for me if they are the most expensive MBT and are taking up an upgrade - I do like them a lot though.

SUPPORT TANK:
Stingray - infantry punishing FP without LOF (if you can get a mark for them)
Runner-Up:
None. The skyray should be a MBT, but it doesn't even make the cut for me at the runner-up support tank level. 75 points is just too much for me to swing for that vehicle to date.

LV:
Broadsides - I hate them stand alone, and 300 points is steap for 4 models, and I don't think they should be LV's... but  they work great with an Orca and deliver a hammer blow to the enemy medium and heavy tanks. If I get them with a orca - they beat out piranha and tetra all day long. If I don't get an orca with them, well - then I guess my runner-up would move into my first choice slot here.
Runner-UP:
Piranha. I think the tetra is overpriced now in the list. I don't think we should have ever bumped them up in price. However, the piranha is that fast formation that gives some AT to work with when I need to 1. add some models to a formation cheaply, and 2. give me a chance to sprinkle in some AT when I need it.

INFANTRY:
Pathfinder - for the elite scout, sniper, disrupt combo
Runner-UP:
crisis for the cadre, initiative bump, multiple shots per stand, infantry macroweapon, 45cm gun on tau infantry is just rare, and upgrade potential, price keeps them out of top spot and having to buy a 100 point orca to motor them around doesn't help the cost situation. Being able to give this init 1 formation leader just feels right and works - so where they would not have even made the runner up for me - now they work and I like the way they feel - even if they are not my ideal design.
Runner-UP2:
Stealth, for the teleporting markerlight trick factor coupled with scout, but price keeps them out of top spot. Disrupt and 3+ shot at 15cm are just too risky with an army that can't count on going first so the formation feels better to me, but still may be over priced for delivery in many of my games it seems.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:07 am 
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Quote (The_Real_Chris @ 22 Feb. 2006 (23:52))
A side piont, does anyone ever not take their transports?

Since we pay for them already - umm... no, I always take the DF. :)

Never understood that myself. We had a side bar conversation about that a long, long time ago dating back to the old boards. It was off forum. At the time, there were people that didn't want to have to take the DF... for Orca/Manta...

So as the core design showed options where PF's didn't have to take the DF on orca - so be it, core design lead the way on that one if I recall.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:15 pm 
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I'm a big fan of my Morays - a pair of ion cannon Assault Ships are pretty handy at chopping up enemy formations!

I'm also a fan of the Stingray-T+P combo - place the tanks either on the home objective (behind a handy terrain piece, if possible...) or a bit closer to the enemy - while still behind cover! - operating in tandem with the Tetras + 4 Piranhas to target bothersome enemy infantry or LV formations.


But as you know, my experience with Tau formations is relevant with less unit types than for you guys!


Looks wise, until/unless I get that Manta, I'll have to go with my Custodian!


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For me it's definitely the Hammerhead Cadre. The models look great and made me start an Epic:A army.

Hammerheads also prove themselves quite good at a lot of situations, so I often run 2 formations of them in a typical 3000 pts game.

- engage ennemy armour efficiently on turn 1
- skimmer makes them quite survivable and they have plenty of target opportunities due to their speed, range and mixed AP/AT armament.
- good at objective holding while still participating actively to the battle due to their range.
- anti-aicraft options
- are a 'backbone' choice as a cadre
- size options (cadre or contingent + upgrades).



Pathfinders
A side piont, does anyone ever not take their transports?

I've done it twice:
- when mounting them into a Manta along with Hammerheads
- when adding them to firewarrior footsloggers.

So it has its uses even if it's a bit counter-effective.





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I love my Hammerheads, and they're beautiful models.  But as others have previously seen, I also love my Crisis Suits and Broadsides.  I've gotten good use out of them in the handful of games I've played with my Tau.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:32 am 
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Stingrays + Skyray:  While my opponent concentrates on killing my Crisis or my Hammerheads, this formation sits tight and eats half an enemy formation eact turn, and with ignore cover and no lof needed, they cant hide, they can only run. :D


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I like the T&K overall ... they are the most [hi-tech] "modern" army in Epic (most of the rest are hi-tech WWII!), with cool alien allies !!:D

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Quote (Legion 4 @ 23 Feb. 2006 (23:30))
I like the T&K overall ... they are the most [hi-tech] "modern" army in Epic (most of the rest are hi-tech WWII!), with cool alien allies !!:D

L4,

...for high-tech out of your WWII norm, see;

1) Necron Terminators with an Egyption enfactuation, or

2) Eldar Far-cheaters, with more rulebending and gadgetry than the average IG Bob can keep up with!

:p

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As I said, "most" ... the Eldar and Necron are the exceptions ... :;):

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Actually, it would be easier to say what are my least favorite formations:

1. Kroot - Undefined role, don't add value
2. Manta - I really struggle to see where I'd ever field one, unless its just to show the model...which I don't have
3. Broadsides - Don't fit into a true Mechanized roster, not interested in borrowing aerospace assets (i.e. Orca) to get them around
4. Drones - Not sure that I've ever seen a good reason to take them. If I'm going to bulk up a unit, I'd rather bulk it up with something that really shoots.
5. Markerlight drones - same as above
6. Ion Cannon Tigershark - Doesn't add enough value for the points expended

Everything else, I like, although I'm still working on where the Crisis fits into my mech scheme.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:13 pm 
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@Honda,

Quote (Honda @ 24 Feb. 2006 (12:03))
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although I'm still working on where the Crisis fits into my mech scheme.

Aboard an Orca or Manta?

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