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Orcs: How to play Gunwagonz and Flakkwagonz effective?

 Post subject: Orcs: How to play Gunwagonz and Flakkwagonz effective?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:53 pm 
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Hi!

I want to try, to play all the Gunwagonz and Flakkwagonz I have in one list.
There are 24 Gunwagonz and 12 Flakk.

The only effective Formation I know is the Blitz-Brigade (2 Flakk, 2 Gun, Oddbox)

As you see I doesn't have enough Flakkwagonz to play them all in Blitz-Brigades, so I have to field greater Formations. But how?

Should I play double or uge? How many Oddboyz? And what is the best way to distribute my 12 Flakkwagonz between the formations?

They should be part of a 3k list.


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 Post subject: Re: Orcs: How to play Gunwagonz and Flakkwagonz effective?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:00 pm 
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probably a mix of small with zzaps and big with soopaguns, just take fewer flakkwagons overall, or have some with no flakkwagons at all, probably the smaller zzap ones as they're less of a tempting air assault target and more gunwagons means they can take more suppression

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 Post subject: Re: Orcs: How to play Gunwagonz and Flakkwagonz effective?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:36 pm 
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Hi!

Thanks, so I would play them like this:

BLITZ BRIGADE [200]
4 Gunwagon, Oddboy

BLITZ BRIGADE [200]
4 Gunwagon, Oddboy

BLITZ BRIGADE [200]
4 Gunwagon, Oddboy

They get all Zzaps

BLITZ BRIGADE (BIG) [350]
4 Flakwagon, 4 Gunwagon, 2 Oddboy

BLITZ BRIGADE (BIG) [350]
4 Flakwagon, 4 Gunwagon, 2 Oddboy

BLITZ BRIGADE (BIG) [350]
4 Flakwagon, 4 Gunwagon, 2 Oddboy

They get Soopagunz because there are 2 Oddboyz each which means one extra Template

On they table I would field them like this: Normal - Big - Normal etc... so that the Flakk in the Big Formations kann Guard the Smaller ones.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:27 pm 
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alternatively you could add a couple of gunwagons to your zzap brigades, beef them up to 6 and they become a little tougher to break....

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:34 pm 
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I for one find the Oddboys too expensive to be fielded en masse. Don't get me wrong, one or two with Zzapp are great in 3k, but your big formations cost the same as a 'uge formation of Wagons.

With your 36 wagons I'd take 9 formations of 4, each with an Oddboy (zzapp). That's 1800 points. Then you have another nice 1200 points to fill with other stuff (like 6 Kult of Speed, gives you a nice 15 activations - should be fun to watch).

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 Post subject: Re: Orcs: How to play Gunwagonz and Flakkwagonz effective?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:13 pm 
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And then I have no Formation where I can put my Warlord ;)

And as you know I prefer Fighta Bombas and Landas

So I would play this:
BLITZ BRIGADE [200]
2 Flakwagon, 2 Gunwagon, Oddboy

BLITZ BRIGADE [200]
2 Flakwagon, 2 Gunwagon, Oddboy

BLITZ BRIGADE [200]
2 Flakwagon, 2 Gunwagon, Oddboy

BLITZ BRIGADE [200]
Flakwagon, 3 Gunwagon, Oddboy

BLITZ BRIGADE [200]
Flakwagon, 3 Gunwagon, Oddboy

BLITZ BRIGADE [200]
Flakwagon, 3 Gunwagon, Oddboy

BLITZ BRIGADE [200]
Flakwagon, 3 Gunwagon, Oddboy

BLITZ BRIGADE [200]
Flakwagon, 3 Gunwagon, Oddboy

BLITZ BRIGADE [200]
Flakwagon, 3 Gunwagon, Oddboy

LANDA [200]

WARBAND [250]
2 Nobz, 6 Boyz, 2 Grotz, 2 Boyz + Grotz

FIGHTA SKWADRON [150]
3 Fighta Bomba

FIGHTA SKWADRON [150]
3 Fighta Bomba

WARBAND [250]
2 Nobz, 6 Boyz, 2 Grotz, Warlord, 2 Boyz + Grotz

LANDA [200]

Also 15 activations :p


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Like a swarm of loudmouthed mosquitoes! The AA cover will be adequate.

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this is very close to what I wnated to do with my orks. will be watching with interest,

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That's a list that will make some people sit up and take notice. Just one thing you appear to have both of your Warbands as the BTS. Maybe not the best of ideas.

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Hehe nice list :-)

Just thought about swapping the wagons for Stompaz in my Army, so I could garrison them all and have the rest off table. Thx for the idea :D


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:39 pm 
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Ok, I also think the other list is worth to try. Maybe I play it at the tournament in february. At friday I have a Epic-game, but my opponent is a newbe and so I don't want to frustrate him with this "swarm of mosquitoes", especially because at our last tournament he had to play against a Siege Master Army with even more activations ^^

I also want to test Warbands reinforced with Stompas and make a list with this idea for friday ;)


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Please post a report when you play the list, it would be nice to see such an army in action.


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