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Using the Aspects

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:39 pm 
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I am just a fledgling Eldar player, but I have grasped the Alaitoc list as my go to list when building my small Eldar force. With a focus on Rangers and Pathfinders, I find myself looking to use a few Aspect Troupes and wonder the myriad of uses for them. Mainly I am looking for something to put into a Vampire Raider and other basic tech for using aspects. Keep in mind I am using the above named list so Troupes are 6 units.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:45 pm 
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Warp spiders + exarch in a Vampire raider wirks good. 6 first strike FF4+ is really, realky good for clipoing assaults...

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:10 pm 
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Reaper exarch and 5 lots of dire avengers is pretty potent, maybe swap in a couple of stands of scorpions to btb stuff like tanks, they also have a better save.....

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:13 pm 
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Most suggestions are going to be a variant on that.

Avengers/Scorpions will get you more hits but is less clipping more of a meat grinder.
Dragons would be good clipping an armored unit.
Reapers will be more clipping and serve as a nice firebase if you can get them back into cover.

I probably wouldn't try this with Spears or Hawks, they've got mobility enough on their own.

And Banshees... well if you're a real man you'd try this with Banshees...

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:25 pm 
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So I am so new I did not realize I could mix up the aspects in each Troupe. For reference, here is my 3000 point list:

Alaitoc 3000

Wraithgate 50
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Guardian Warhost (3 Guardians, 3 HW, 1 Farseer, 2 WG) 250
Ranger Warhost (4 Rangers, 3 War Walkers) 200
Ranger Warhost (4 Rangers, 3 War Walkers) 200
Ranger Warhost (4 Rangers, 3 War Walkers) 200

Pathfinder Troupe (4 Pathfinders) 200
Pathfinder Troupe (4 Pathfinders) 200

SOV Troupe (3 Fire Prism, 2 Fire Storm) 250
EOV Troupe (2 Cobras) 450
Nightspinner Troupe (3) 175

Apsect Warrior Troupe (6 Dark Reapers,Autarch) 300

Nightwings (3) 300
Vampire Raider (1) 200

I have the Reapers in the Vampire currently, but I am intrigued to now possibly mix up the aspects in the Troupe. So what would be a good mash up for this specific Troupe?


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:31 pm 
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I'd sub some reapers out for avengers, much better in FF, no less survivable, can clip as easily, make sure to include an exarch on a reaper stand, the extra FF is nice but the inspiring bonus is golden

Also agree with Dave, give Banshees some love..... ;)

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I don't think I can have an Autarch and an Exarch in the same troupe in the Alaitoc list since the Autarch fills the 0-1 exarch slot, unless I am reading it wrong.

So perhaps 2 Dark Reaper Stands and 4 Dire Avenger Stands?


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Noob alert! I keep reading about clipping assaults. Is that jargon or should I just rtfm?! Sound sort of tactical and important...


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Jargon.

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Dave wrote:
And Banshees... well if you're a real man you'd try this with Banshees...


Totally agree ;D


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:14 pm 
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Ban banshees make an assault move out of a Vampire Raider?


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Just the usual 5cm dismount, its why warp spiders are good, they can do a 15cm dismount

Re: exarch, I missed that you had an autarch already, may be worth keeping him as a warp spider for the extra save....

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@dave - thanks for this. So aspects are good at clipping assaults because they can concentrate a high number of attacks over a small number of stands/space?


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kyussinchains wrote:
Just the usual 5cm dismount, its why warp spiders are good, they can do a 15cm dismount

Re: exarch, I missed that you had an autarch already, may be worth keeping him as a warp spider for the extra save....


So what exact loadout to you recommend for the Vampire Raider then? Pure spiders with the autarch?


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Alf O'Mega wrote:
@dave - thanks for this. So aspects are good at clipping assaults because they can concentrate a high number of attacks over a small number of stands/space?


Aspects are good at assaults in general, but yes. Adding in 1-2 Inspiring characters make them killer.

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