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3000 Points Minervans

 Post subject: 3000 Points Minervans
PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:08 am 
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Incompertus, 3000 POINTS
Minervan Tank Legion (NetEA Army Compendium v20120208)
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TANK COMPANY [825]
2 Vanquisher, 8 Leman Russ, Flak Support (Hydra), Supreme Commander

TANK COMPANY [575]
Flak Support (Hydra), 10 Exterminator

SUPER-HEAVY TANK COMPANY [550]
Flak Support (Hydra), 3 Shadowsword

FLAK BATTERY [150]
3 Hydra

SALAMANDER SCOUT PLATOON [100]
3 Salamanders

SELF-PROPELLED ARTILLERY BATTERY [250]
3 Manticores

SELF-PROPELLED ARTILLERY BATTERY [250]
3 Manticores

THUNDERBOLT FIGHTERS [150]
2 Thunderbolts

THUNDERBOLT FIGHTERS [150]
2 Thunderbolts

Played at the last Tourney (see Photos and nearly all games before, usual vs. Gazkuhls Orks and there it is balanced so far. I win and I lose. But on the last tourney desks it was beaten three times. Against Onachus Tyras there was no chance. Bug spamming for the best. But he overlooked swarming pool. So no endless bases for them. But otherwise the cover-searching big swarms were ugly.
Againsts Gazkhulls Orks in second game I lost through a mistake. Thought in third round, that it was 2nd turn... List here is not bad, LR Coys are very good against large Mobs in open terrain. :D My center with the Shadowswords, Salamanders, Flak Coy and Manticors was overrunned due to a large ork mob engaging the SH-Tanks and won. Before the SH-Coy killed 2 Grot stands, lol.
Third game against Biel-Tan, was exciting, in fourth round I have lost due to attrition. Those nasty Fire Prisms behind cover. And my two manticors were broken since in first round untill fourth round end phase...

Here you have the lists from other attendees, don't care for german language, the lists are in english :D
http://www.diefestung.com/forum/thread. ... r=0&page=3

So I have some issius about the list. Are there IC-units missing? Swap Shadowswords out for Stormswords? Or one manticor battery for bombards? Mechanized Infantry?


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 Post subject: Re: 3000 Points Minervans
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:53 pm 
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Well, over a hundred sights but no answers? Please say something, thanks! Or are there no inputs?


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 Post subject: Re: 3000 Points Minervans
PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:57 pm 
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Thank you!
So dropping one Manticore Battery and one T-Bolt Squadron? Hmm, don't like first option, because IMO artillery is so vital for tank armies. Firstly for Counter-Battery Fire, then for killing such tiny formations like 4 flak waggons, and then for killing brocken formations. And for softing up such good defences like a squat shooting castle. And one Battery of Manticors is not enough for all this tasks IMO. I have once testet one list without artillery and with Vultures and Valkyries instead. That has not function well, so I want to keep with my two batteries. But what's with Bombards instead of one manticor-battery. Counter-Battery sucks a little bit, but other tasks can be handeld more or less well. But it offers the needed ignore cover. I am not sure.

And T-Bolts are maybe an option to drop them. But in our local "meta" it is worth it's weigth in gold. I like it to have air supriority in 3rd and 4th turn. And for shooting down those nasty Vampire Raiders and Landas. And i like his capacity for ground attack.

So if I follow your advice, I'd take two Stormswords. But, as stated, I'm not really sure of it. It adds the needed IC, but is it worth it?

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You can achieve a similar list with the Steel Legion list.


Yes, that's true, but I think that this coy of Exterminators is superior to one Regimental HQ. And I like my supreme commander hanging around and waiting for Titans. And this differs a bit from SL list, because there the SC have to be used more offensivly.


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