I don’t think I’ve used an epic Titan Legion in this edition of the game but I’m toying with taking the below list along when I go abroad for a few years, to play and paint along the way. That obviously limits my ability to change it as I go, so I'd like to get a good list in advance.

Legio Crucius (Warmongers)

Reaver 1 - 2 Missile Launchers, Carapace Landing Pad, Carapace Multi-Lasers 675
Reaver 2 - 2 Plasma Cannons, Plasma Blastgun 625
Reaver 3 - Corvus Assault Pod, Laser Burner, Plasma Blastgun 575

Warhound - Plasma Blastgun and Vulcan Megabolter 275
A pair of Warhounds - Warhound 1: 2 x Inferno Cannon. Warhound 2: 2 x Plasma Blastgun 500

Sentinels 100
Thunderbolts 150
Hydapists 100

8 activations, 27 DC of WE, 18 MW 2+ SF plasma shots and 21 models in all. ATML 3.19.

They come from forge world Ryza (famous for its plasma weapons) and I'll be using the newly specified at last colour scheme from the recent Badab War books:

I play Titan Legion a bit, and I've found that magnetizing the weapon mounts is a good way to vary the list while only painting (and carrying about!) a few hulls.

The list looks interesting, and I like the Plasma theme. I can see that you have artillery, stand-off fire and assault covered by the reavers, and maneuver elements / objective grabbers in the warhounds, so it feels well rounded.

You might want to replace the MLs for QCs, the MW barage can really ruin the enemy backfield (which the Titans otherwise have trouble reaching).

A single T'Bolt segment seems a little low; You will be ceding air superiority, which the legion can really use - there's little else than aircraft to chase and destroy broken units that are hiding. Personally, I'd switch out the pair of Warhounds for additional T'bolts, Marauders and the cannons on the artillery reaver.

Seconding the twin quake cannon/Corvus Landing Pad combo. Being able to set that reaver up in heavy terrain on your blitz and sustain fire as your first activation, dropping a 6BP macroweapon barrage anywhere on the board, is one of the best things ever.

Is that colour scheme black and white ? or dark green and white ? I was planning to go for very dark green as a basis for mine...

This picture looks great, by the way.

I realise Quake Cannons plus C.L.P. are another popular combination, but they’d make the Reaver 775 - a whole 100 points more expensive again. I’d rather not loose an activation for it - I really struggled and pulled back on what I wanted to be able to squeeze in 8 activations in as is. Plus it would make my BTS very deadly and expensive and even more likely to be targeted. As is the enemy might be torn between it and other things at times. Plus, lastly, I don’t think there’s a truescale quake cannon part and I like the aesthetics of the missile launchers or ‘apocalypse launchers’ or whatever the new name is again (I initially fancied a 3 missile launcher Reaver for the look of it, but it was just too pricy for what it was).

I couldn’t just swap Warhounds for another formation of planes or two – I’ve already taken the maximum 3 support formations allowed by the 3 Reavers. I realise I'm low on air, but I'll just have to live with it. The only especially vulnerable formation to enemy air are my sentinels and they'll probably be screening around the blitz guard artillery Reaver, with it's Carapace Multi-Lasers.

I’ve revised my Warhound weapons slightly now though, so with the pair I can fire a nice 6BP ignore cover barrage on turn 2, counting the other plasma recharging Warhound for suppression if they’ve got 3-5 blast markers. I do indeed plan to magnetise the weapons, though space and weight is going to be very limited so I won’t be able to take many spare (I’m not necessarily sure I’ll be able to take the army at all though I hope I can).

Black and white. Each titan varies as to the placing and shape of the markings.

...oh sod-it, here’s a cheeky screen cap from my IA10 - Badab War pdf (I recommend it – it’s a great read):


It’s actually not my first choice of colour scheme – I find it too drab. Ideally I might do Legio Praetor who are known allies of the Ultramarines I have, but it’s never been specified what colours they are. I have a large quantity of Leman Russ Executioner tanks, to field an Adeptus Machanicus tank army with them and it occurred to me Ryza and Crucius could be more fitting than Mars, who I had been planning on going with. Plasma weapons do look good and it's nice to have a themed list And the colour scheme should be relatively quick to paint, which is good since I'm an incredibly slow painter.

Fair enough; Aesthetics is important too. My experience is based off a Warlord artillery titan, which is nigh enough unkillable that nobody really tries - a Reaver may be a more realistic target for a concerted effort.


My bad, i forgot that the hypaspists are a support formation on their own. But note that the Scout titans counts as Titan formations too - so with your list, you could bring up to 5 support formations.


I've never used the Inferno, myself (I don't have a model for it, yet). Personally, I'd not let my Warhounds that near an enemy formation, lightly toasted or not, they are really quite fragile in CC. I usually put long-range (45cm+) weaponry on them and use them for support fire and last-turn objective grabs. Looking forward to hearing how it works out, though!

I changed my mind again and went back to the original 3 Plasma Blastguns for the Warhound pair, though with an Inferno Gun as well. I’ll give a try out in battles and see. I can always switch back to the other free option of 1 Vulcan Megabolter instead.

Ahhh - thanks for point that out! I thought I was finding list design limited. I took it to just be battle titans. I’ve thought about it more and I still don’t think I’d change anything though. I’m quite happy being low on airpower for the sake of fitting 6 titans in, while 8 activations seems acceptable for a WE list.

I'm guessing you are taking the corvus just to discount the infantry? Are you planning on putting them in the pod at all?

I've fiddled with the 2x quake reaver and it really is a fire magnet. If you don't get first activation it'll be a prime target for any TK weapon your opponent has with him and the reaver is a pretty soft target against a persistent attacker.

You've got a pretty heavy Warhound load out and I don't think you gain anything from taking a single inferno cannon. the VMB + inferno is another combination you might look at and use the 25 points you save from not taking 2xblast guns to take a TLD on the single warhound.

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In the current version of the list you are required to take a Corvus for each infantry formation (they're 0-1 per Corvus). I do want to have one infantry formation in the list (and with me to paint). 100 points for 10 infantry does sound a pretty good price and I need the activations. I may or may not deploy in the pod initially – it’ll really depend on the opponent and scenery of the particular battle.


3 Warhounds in a TL list is heavy numbers of them? They’re meant to be the most common form of titan around. The many plasma blastguns are because Ryza is especially famous for plasma technology, it's a theme thing, like White Scars having lots of bikes say.

I’m actually not paying any extra for the Warhound pair at all either – I get the two for the minimum 500 points. The rule for the +25 surcharge for having all titan weapons of one type specifically applies to the formation, not to an individual titan.

I’ll experiment with the Inferno Gun. I agree it probably is overall at least slightly worse than a Vulcan Megabolter as a second weapon, but it may have it niche uses and I’d like to try it out a bit as it’s a gun Warhounds don’t normally have with their default weapon combination.

no, not heavy in numbers of WH, heavy in armament.

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i have used dual inferno warhounds in the past (infact, they're the only option available to my bloodpact list)
its vulnerable to counterattack, yes, but it does put down a not inconsiderable amount of firepower when it gets its positioning and targets right. plus, it helps discourage people hiding in cover, which can be useful if you have some heavy artillery that doesnt ignore cover backing it up.
plus, giant flamethrowers are cool as hell.

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Ok, yes then, but deliberately so. It wouldn't be a proper Ryza list unless it had tonnes of plasma weaponry! It'll work particularly well against some armies and struggle a bit more against others.

I'm coming to like the idea of running the dual warhound formation with one twin Plasma Blastgun, one with twin Inferno Cannon. That seems like a good combo and it adds a bit more anti-infantry firepower.

i have a dual plasma hound in my list - but i did it cause i thought it was cool
i try to be as blanced as possible with weapon selection as you never know what your opponant might bring, but generally i feel that warhounds should always have a tld, as it means they can stay at range and keep bm`s on nasty, titan killing formations. just be sure to pair it with something else or youll suffer against infantry.

i tend to take titans in a more specialist role when making a Titan Legion list. in a mixed army, you're really likely to only have the one titan, so its battlefield role could be any number of things on a given turn, thus it pays to generalise. when you have 6+ titans wading around, it pays to give them relatively well defined roles. twin megabolter warhounds are still capable of blitzing small light tank formations (such as hydras and artillery more than russ and raiders) and a twin TLD are still quite capable of hurting infantry. in both cases, they're better at their primary goal though, so you do your best to target prime formations of your prefered enemy. taking 2 warhounds, each with 1 TLD and 1 VMB means you'll probably end up doubling up on one formation to kill it, instead of wiping out a tank and an infantry formation by splitting your fire. thats why they cost more to stick within the same role.

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yes but if you lose your tld hound youve lost alot of your at fire - i prefer not to put all my eggs in one basket, however well armoured it might be. but thats just me, i guess its down to personal preference