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Rule Querey - Stubborn & Broken
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:34 pm 
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Hi Everyone.

Here is the situation:

Stubborn ability: If a broken unit with Stubborn loses an engagement, do they get saves or are they wiped out. Reason I ask is because a broken unit that loses an assault is wiped out and does not gain BM damage. Just wondering whether Stubborn overides this.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:46 pm 
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Quote: (Hena @ Jan. 04 2010, 20:42 )

I'm assuming you are talking about the Chaos special rule here and not Squats? Name needs to be changed here really to avoid this :smile:.

IMO they all get save. So, normally a formation which is broken and loses an assault all are wiped. With all unit in formation with stubborn would then translate to all having to take saves.

Yeah Chaos. I have not looked at the squat version for a very long time - forgot all about it actually  :)

If they do not get their saves, it is a weakness to exploit to take out broken Terminators with Stubborn. If not, then good, I have been playing it correctly.

As for a name change, are we happy to agree on something for both our lists to use Hena?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:57 pm 
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Quote: (Hena @ Jan. 04 2010, 17:38 )

I was thinking 'Resolute'.

That sounds pretty noble for a bunch of corrupted traitors...  :whistle:

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I am going to get the Thesaurus out today   :laugh:

I was also looking at words such as 'Veteran' but not sure if it really fits  :down:

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Well, determine exactly what it's supposed to represent and go from there.

Does it represent the same thing in the Squats list?  Can the two be reconciled?

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Well I guess the initial querey is that they DO get their saves.

So moving onto the differeing names, I will look up more today, yet here is what I wrote down before going to bed last night:

Stubborn - being used now
Resilient - ??
Resistance - not really
Feel No Pain - very 40K
Nerves of Steel - very Blood Bowl
Battle worn - ??
Veteran - does not really fit
Juggernaught - already a unit in the game
Indomitable - ??

Obviously the bolded ones are my preferred from last nights thoughts....

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I really leaning towards Indomitable which means:

that cannot be subdued or overcome, as persons, will, or courage; unconquerable

It does fit to a certain extent....

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:14 pm 
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Resolute. It's not like the rule's limited to only the traitor legions.

And what's in a name anyway? White Scar "Walker" Bikes anyone?

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