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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 3:57 pm 
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I thought long and hard about how to beat this list after a devestating loss against it.

I couldn't come up with anything useful.

I also think that the AA formations are too cheap. With the added transports they are 6 units strong, so not easily broken, and have a range of 60 cm. All for 100 points. This is crazy IMO. Even in the original list they were at 125 points.

Think it's time I really started writing my own army list....


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:03 pm 
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12 formations of terminators. :)

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:20 pm 
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The list is also very static, even for a Baran list, with only a single formation of light tanks that can even chance moving out and taking objectives.

By focusing on holding your three and possibly going for BTS, while destroying the light tanks, you should be able to pin the baran down and force a win.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:45 pm 
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lord-bruno wrote:
Koshi wrote:
No one have faced Baran before this event. I'd like to see this list against my AMTL or Minervans. Maybe in Budapest in May...


Servus!

It would really suffer against AMTL, but I run Minervans and struggle to think of any list good to beat those Barans, other than templates, templates and templates.


Some Companies of Demolishers and Stormswords would save this problem. But, in a tournement this will suck against other lists.


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 Post subject: Re: NetE:A 3k points Baran Siegemasters
PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:15 pm 
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Hi everyone!

Wow we got some activity here recently. I'll try going through in order.

Spectrar Ghost: So I'm not the only one suffering with long deployment / undeplyoment time. Since I love the theme of sheer number of guardsmen (got surprised I guess :) ) holding against unspeakable terror, I usually tend to place many infantry stands, which also causes many delays. At other tables the first rounds were quite began while we (me) were still in the middle of deploying.

Lord Bruno: I had some battle against AMTL. Without TK weaponry, the only option is to break each Titan, thus denying them activation or capturing objectives as much as possible. I have accomplished this against one of our AMTL players, while he destroyed half of the regiment and me only taking out a single Warhound Scout Titan. Was a very fun, tick-tock game, which was ended in the 4. turn with IG victory.
To sum up: nothing is impossible in a game of EPIC!

Mspaetauf: Yup the ultra static activation spamming was purposeful, yet it has it's design flaws, as Novemberrain mentioned.
Also I might add, that Leaxe's fun post (as always, lol :D ) has some reason in it. With Marine / Chaos Marine lists, one or two terminator formation charging in 1. turn is pretty much forces the battle into the IG territory.
Remember that you have quite butchered my HQ in the first turn, with 1x6 Chaos terminators, also laying some Blast Markers to the nearby artillery. At that point I wasn't sure of the outcome. Only later. >:D
EDIT: Opps, that was the next guy (I have played almost identical armies and in a row), yours were 1x4 chaos terminators against howitzers, although the benefits and results were the same.

By the way I agree in that the flak units are really cheap formations and not just them, so I still prefer the current EpicUK Baran list over the current NetE:A one. Check it out, and compare.

Koshi: Sir! I'll gladly take the battlefield against your AMTL or Minervan! I hope it will happen sometime in a Spring Tournament. Will be Epic!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:40 pm 
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Hi there!

Is it purposefully designed to have 2 commissars within one formation? I mean putting one in the sapper company then splitting it up into another company. (which is also have a commissar attached)

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:38 pm 
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Commissar Holt wrote:
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Is it purposefully designed to have 2 commissars within one formation? I mean putting one in the sapper company then splitting it up into another company. (which is also have a commissar attached)


Is this legal at all?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:19 pm 
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After some experiences and many thinkering I have ended up with this:

3000 point INVASION SIEGE REGIMENT

HQ Infantry, commissar (BTS by the spec rules) 225
Inf + thudd gun, commissar (BTS) 250
Inf + rapier, commissar (BTS) 250
Infantry, commissar 175
Shadowsword, commissar 200
Shadowsword, commissar 200
Inf + thudd gun (BTS) 250
D-strike 200
Light tank 150
Light tank 150
Flak (bruennhildes) 100
Flak (bruennhildes) 100
Arty (bruennhildes) 150
Arty (bruennhildes) 150
t-bolt 150
t-bolt 150
fortification (6x bunker) 75
fortification (6x gun emplacement) 75

16 activations. For the cost of having 4 BTS formations, there are lots of stuff which I have missed* in my earlier builds, where the points sunk into getting 1 BTS...

*Mainly TK shots, extra fortification, heavy guns for infantry...

Thoughts?

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Why not put 1 of the infantry upgrades (Thudd Guns or Rapiers) into the HQ to have just 1 BTS


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dptdexys wrote:
Why not put 1 of the infantry upgrades (Thudd Guns or Rapiers) into the HQ to have just 1 BTS


Good point. ::) Thx!

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