So, me and UvenLord decided to test out the Gargant list again! We played with the "flakka dakka" upgrade instead of the "wyrdboy tower" and played the boilers rule as causing crits.

Here is UvenLords list:

Ghosts in shells, 3000 POINTS
Iyanden Craftworld (4.2)
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AVATAR [0]

WRAITHGATE [50]

SPIRIT WRAITHGUARD WARHOST [475]
4x Wraithguard units, Wraithseer, 2 Wraithguard

SPIRIT WRAITHGUARD WARHOST [275]
4x Wraithguard units, Spiritseer

SPIRIT WRAITHGUARD WARHOST [275]
4x Wraithguard units, Spiritseer

GUARDIAN TROUPE [150]
Farseer, 7 Guardian

SWORDS OF VAUL TROUPE [250]
3 Falcons, 2 Fire Storm

SWORDS OF VAUL TROUPE [250]
3 Falcons, 2 Fire Storm

ENGINE OF VAUL TROUPE [250]
Storm Serpent

REVENANT TITANS [650]
2 Revenant Titans

VAMPIRE RAIDER [200]

NIGHT SPINNER TROUPE [175]
3x Night Spinner units

Heres my list:

Morks Man-Manglerz, 2980 POINTS
Gargant Bigmob (3.2.3 - Developmental)
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GARGANT [675]
(Kustom) Wyrdboy Tower, (Kustom) Power Fields, Grot Guided Missile, Ripper Fist, Supa Skorcha

GARGANT [625]
(Kustom) Power Fields, (Kustom) Wyrdboy Tower, 2 Gatling Kannon, Supa Skorcha

GARGANT [625]
(Kustom) Power Fields, (Kustom) Reinforced Boiler, Ripper Fist, Supa Skorcha, Gatling Kannon

SUPA STOMPA [370]
3 Soopagun, (Kustom) Extra Armour Bitz, 2 Flak Wagon

SUPA STOMPA [335]
3 Soopagun, (Kustom) Extra Armour Bitz, Flak Wagon

FIGHTA-BOMMERS [200]
4 Fighta-Bommers

FIGHTA-BOMMERS [150]
3 Fighta-Bommers

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Setup:

I placed my blitz in the center and then placed both T&H objectives 30sm apart just past the centerline on the center-right (typical Gargant placing that i always go for)

UvenLord place his blitz in the center to and placed his T&H objectives close together on the right flank.

By looking at the objective placement this was going to be a pretty bloody battle...

UvenLord started with very few units on the board. All of the Inf was either in the Warp or in the Vampre Raider circling the skies. The formations that was on the board started huddled together on the left flank.

I spread out my forces pretty evenly making sure the AA bubble protected everything from the inevitable air-assault that was coming.

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TURN 1: Iyanden wins initiative and elects to let the Gargants go first.

G: BTS.Gargant Sustains (with the help of the SC) on the storm serpent. Only manages to hit with 1 grot guided missile and only does 1DC of damage! (2BM).

I: guardians marches out of the wraith gate into ruins on the right flank.

G: supa-stompa on right flank doubles forward and shots at guardians in ruins for 2BM.

I: Vampire with wraithguards air assaults supa-stompa on the right flank. 2 flak wagons are destroyed for the loss of 2 wraithguards. Supa-stompa wins combat by 1 so the wraithguard breaks and the vampire raider is destroyed.

G: supa-stompa in center sustaiins on guardians in ruins killing 5 of them and breaks the formation.

I: night spinners doubles forward on left flank.

G: fighter-bombas ground attacks night spinners for 1BM.

G: fighter-bombas try to retain but stands down.

I: falcons doubles forward on the left flank.

G: gargant in center doubles towards the left flank and fires on night spinners killing 1 and breaks the formation.

I: falcons in center doubles forward and fires on Gargant, stripping 3 shields (1BM)

G: Gargant on right flank doubles into central forest.

I: storm serpent holds, breaks and moves forward.

I: revenants (BTS) doubles forward up on a hillon the left flank and fires on gargant stripping 2 shields (1BM).

END PHASE:

1 Fighter-Bomba is shot down by massive AA (8 5+ shots and 4 6+ shots!) when existing the board.

Storm serpent rallies
Wraithguards on right flank fails to rally
Night spinners fail to rally

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TURN 2: Iyanden wins initiative.

I: storm serpent advances forward (with the help of the SC) and fires on Gargant stripping 1 shield (1BM).

I: revenants retains and advances towards Gargant and fires on it. they srip 2 shields and does 4DC of damage breaking the formation.

I: falcons tripple retain and advances towards the supa-stompa the in center and fires on it, stripping 2 shields and doing 3DC (4BM).

G: Supa-stompa in center takes his revenge and engages the falcons. With the supporting fire from the Gargant in the central forest the falcons are wiped out for no losses.

G: BTS-gargant retains and engages wraithguards in front of it. 3 stands are killed for the loss of 5 shields, they gargant wins the combat.

I: falcons on the left flank advances and fires on BTS-Gargant stripping the last 4 shields (1BM).

I: wraithguards with wraithseer retains and engages the BTS-Gargant from the Storm serpents wraith gate. They do 1DC for no losses and wins the combat.

G: supa-stompa on thr right flank doubles and fires on broken guardians and kills 1 of them due to BM:s.

G: Fighter-bombas holds.

G: Fighter-Bombas ground attacks broken guardianskilling 1 of them due to BM:s.

G: Gargant in cnetral forest doubles forward and fires on broken guardians wiping the formation out (it took friggin 1100 points to finish off a broken guardian formation!!!)

END PHASE:

Wraithguard on right flank fails to rally again.
Wraithguard close to Gargant blitz fails to rally.
Storm serpent railles.
Night spinners rallies.
BTS-Gargant rallies with the help of the SC.
Gargant on left flank rallies.

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The Avatar shows up close to the Gargant Blitz!

TURN 3: Gargants win initiative.

G: BTS-Gargant engages wraithguards standing next to it and kills 4 stands for the loss of 2DC. The Gargant wins the combat and consolidates back towards the Blitz.

I: Revenants advance to contest the right most T&H objective. They then fire on the BTS-Gargant doing 2DC and breaks it.

I: Falcons retain and advances towards gargant blitz. They fire on the supa-stompa for 1DC (2BM)

I: the avatar triple retains and advances towards the right flank. He throws his mighty spear into the nearby supa-stompa and breaks it.

G: Gargant on left flank engages broken wraithguard close to gargant blitz. He wipes both stands out for the loss of 1DC. the gargant then consolidates to contest the blitz objective.

I: Storm serpent holds and fires on gargant for 1BM.

G: Fighter-Bombas ground attacks broken night spinners by Iyanden blitz and wipes them out.

G: Fighter-Bombas ground attacks storm serpent and breaks it.

G: Gargant in middle doubles to the eldar blitz.

We end it there because nothing can happen that can change the outcome of the game.

Gargants win 2-0 (T&H and Blitz).

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My thought:

Flakka Dakka - Didn't come into play at all during this game.

Crits for olling 1 on "push it arder ladz" - Didn't happen either. Only rolled 1 once and then rerolled with it with the boiler upgrade.

+2 on "Mob Rule" for all gargants and Supa-Stomas - very much needed in this game. 2 of my gargants (thats about 1300 points) would have rallied on 5+ in turn 2. Now they got to rally on 4+. Without this rule i think the list will be very, very hard to use.

UvenLords abyssmal rolling was what won me the game to be honest. He rolled very few hits when shooting my gargants and i saved alot of the actual hits. Still, both my BTS-Garagnt and the other gargant where down to very few DC:s left (BTS had 3 and other gargant had 2). Had we rolled more close to averege rolls both would have been dead and the game would have dragged to turn 4 for sure.

I'll let UvenLord comment on the list himself but right after the game noone of us found anything to good or bad about the list that needed attention.

Supa-stompas with 6BP MW are awesome. But that goes for any list they´re in.

Feels so good finally getting back to playing Epic regularly after a 4 month hiatus (Infinity came in the way)!

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Thanks for the report. I look forward to UvenLord's thoughts as well.

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So input from thee Almighty Uvenlord right...

This was a fun fight, the Gargants do not feel broken or too bad. This fight could have gone ether way but the initiative roll in turn three really put an end to my chances to win.

Overall nothing really went my way this time and as usually I made some mistakes but it was a close game from the beginning to the end. I took an "old" tournament list to test the Gargants against and an assault oriented army like this (even though they had some shooting power too and a lot of MW ) made the gargants better then usually since I wanted to engage them.
Next time I will try out a little less assaulting army, and since it was a close game even with my bad dice and all I think they might need a boost before a nerf but perhaps time will tell. Against other armies I think it will be hard to win in three turns like this time, but more likely end with the "titan grind" (points in turn 4)

Perhaps the extra move and that it isn't compulsory to use might be a bit to good. I will post a little rant with some suggestions in the Gargant dev thread.

Thanks Carrotkiller for the game!