Hi, me and Mordoten had another game this week, managed to take some notes so here is a report
It was to dark for my camera so the pictures is crap, sorry.
Anyway it was a fun game until the start of turn 3

EpicUK Skitarii (210115)
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SKITARII [400]
1 Secutor units, 9 Hypaspist units, Magos, Hydra, Gorgon
SKITARII [350]
1 Secutor units, 9 Hypaspist units, Hydra, Gorgon
SAGITARII [400]
5 Sagitarii units, 3 Rapier Laser Destroyers, Hydra, Gorgon, 2 Sagitarii Units
SAGITARII [400]
5 Sagitarii units, 3 Rapier Laser Destroyers, Hydra, Gorgon, 2 Sagitarii Units
SENTRY [200]
4 Robots, 3 Rapiers, 3 Rapier Laser Destroyers
SENTRY [200]
4 Robots, 3 Rapiers, 3 Rapier Laser Destroyers
ORDINATUS MINORIS [450]
2 Minoris (3x Twin-Hydra Autocannons), Minoris (Plasma Destructor)
THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON [150]
2 Thunderbolt Fighter-Bombers
THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON [150]
2 Thunderbolt Fighter-Bombers
THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON [150]
2 Thunderbolt Fighter-Bombers
ORBITAL SUPPORT [150]
One Adeptus Mechanicus Cruiser

Iyanden Craftworld (4.2)
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AVATAR [0]
SPIRIT WRAITHGUARD WARHOST [275]
4x Wraithguard units, Spiritseer
SPIRIT WRAITHGUARD WARHOST [275]
4x Wraithguard units, Spiritseer
SPIRIT WRAITHGUARD WARHOST [475]
4x Wraithguard units, 2 Wraithlord, Wraithseer
SWORDS OF VAUL TROUPE [250]
3 Falcons, 2 Fire Storm
SWORDS OF VAUL TROUPE [265]
2 Falcons, Fire Prism, 2 Fire Storm
WINDRIDER TROUPE [200]
5 Jetbike, 1 Viper
WAR WALKER TROUPE [175]
5 War Walker
NIGHT SPINNER TROUPE [175]
3x Night Spinner units
REVENANT TITANS [650]
2 Revenant Titans
VAMPIRE RAIDER [200]
WRAITHGATE [50]

Warwalker and both Sentries garrison ad starts on OW

TURN 1
Nightspinners Hold and Regroup
Spaceship kills 2 jetbikes with bombardment and shoots pinpoint at Revenants (save)
Jetbikes Marshall and moves forward
Thunderbolts on CAP
Wraithguards move out of the webbway and into a building
Thunderbolts groundattack Warwalkers, kills 3 and breaks them
Falcons double and shoots Skitarii. Fireprism manage to get a wound on the Gorgon
Thunderbolts groundattack Nightspinners and kill one, breaking them
Falcons moves forward
Skitarii double and shoots at the Falcons
Revenants double and shoots the Sentry, killing the only ones in sight.
Sentry moves forward through the woods and shoots the jetbikes, kills 3 breaking the lone survivor
Sagitarii Holds and regroup
Minoris double towoards the falcons and kills them all
Sagitarii double and shoots the Revenants
Sagittarii double on the Falcons
END 1 Thunderbolt is shot down. Revenants and Sentry fail to Rally

TURN 2

Avatar appears
Wraithguards double out of the gate and places a BM on Skitarii
Other Wraithguards retain and engages the Skitarii with a little help. Killing 9 + 1 Gorgon, only looses 1 Wraithguard.
Tripple Retain with the Revenants who shoots the Sagitarii and moves back, killing 4
Sagitarii Marshall
Falcons Hold and regroupe
Thunderbolts attack Nightspinners who break
Jetbike moves a little
Skitarii double and shoots at wraithguards in building
Avatar double and throws a spear at the broken Skitarii
Sentry Hold and Regroup
Minoris moves back to Blitz
Sagitarii Double on Falcons killing 1
Sentry Sustain on the Revenants and does 2 wounds
Thunderbolts attack Wraithguards and break them
Thunderbolts ground attack Revenants killing 1 and breaking them
END Revenants and Nightspinners fail to rally

TURN 3

Minoris OW
Skitarii double and shoots Falcons 1BM
Falcons Hold and breaks. (Supreme used...)
Sentry Sustain on Wraithguards 1 BM
Warwalkers Hold and breaks
Thunderbolts on CAP
Wraithguards Hold and Regroup
Thunderbolts attack Wraithguards
Wraithguards Marshall and moves
Thunderbolt attack jetbike and kills it
Vampire air assault Sagitariis. Thunderbolts intercept but 1 is shot down, manages a sneaky placement and wins the battle but two Wraithguards is killed so the formation breaks
Sentry moves and breaks the Vampire
END Iyanden gives up.


There was no winner at the end of turn three but the outcome was clear, at least a 3-0 win in turn 4 to the Skitarii

Conclusion:
I did a couple of careless moves in the beginning, especially with the Falcons, that Mordoten used to his advantage. I was outnumbered and had shorter range on almost every unit, not that good in an assault orientated army. 4 Hydras, 2 AA Minoris and 3 Thunderbolt formations basically prevented my from air assaulting anything important through the whole game.That combined with a lousy start in turn 3 settled this.

My build was not that good this time, I just took a little bit of everything since I had little time planning (or is not that good at it ) The 4 unit strong formations is really vulnerable to being broken, especially against armies with many activations. Not sure the army can survive with titans as they are a really hard point sink... but the Revenants is so nice and really good I think.

(Not sure if it just me but) the Skitarii (UK) is a really hard opponent and Mordoten is trying his best to do a good build. (Gorgons is great for its price, Sentries feels just too cheap ;7 units for 150 points to start with, and thunderbolts is an excellent choice as always.)
My build was not nearly as good so it was uphill from the beginning. Need to figure out a way to get more activations and better support and mobility in the engagements. I also need to be a little more careful with my falcons as the are a key to AA.

/Uven

Thanks for the report

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Uven, my regular opponent locally also plays Epic UK Skitarii (I play Epic UK Saim Hann for the record). I've chalked up several games this year against him. I've only beaten him once, on objectives, after a blinding Avatar led mega jetbike assault.

I find it an incredibly tough list to fight. Most of our local guys agree. My opponents list is less air heavy, and usually includes Warhounds and Knights but keeps the Minorius. Skitarii are tough, with int 2+, SR3, access to titans, tanks, mechanised tough infantry with good stats, cc specialists (praetorian), non titan war engine fire support (minoris), good garrison formation (robots) AND Knights AND aircraft. He usually turtles for two turns, shoots, and then advances out for objectives.

My gut says the list itself is fine-ish, but the points for some formations/upgrades (gorgons!) need a tweak upwards. IMHO I think knights should be removed, the list is tough as is. I see no reason to play Imperial Guard when Skitarii are available IMHO. They do everything better. My opponent has repeatedly commented that he finds the list relatively easy to play and reliable to win with. I may start posting reports from my games in future to give the Epic UK guys some feedback.

Nice to hear that it's not just me complaining
Personally I like it more when Mordoten brings out the Knights then another skitarii formation or whatever. Need to learn their weakness I guess, on paper they are a Little bit on the slow side perhaps...
I Think it is a combination of things that makes the Skitarii good. A couple of formations that is very cost efficient (Gorgons etc) and the ability to mix expensive formations with cheap and resilent activation poppers.
Anyway, next time they will loose

Hi!

Cool report!

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