Hey guys!

Had another game with the Wolves vs the newly approved AMTL list!

Heres what i used:

GREAT COMPANY [500]
6 Grey Hunters, Hunter, Rhinos, 2 Grey hunters, Wolf Lord

GREAT COMPANY [475]
6 Grey Hunters, 2 Grey hunters, Hunter, Rhinos, Wolf Priest, Razorbacks

WOLF GUARD TERMINATORS [375]
4 Wolf Guard Terminators, Wolf Priest, Drop Pods

WOLF GUARD TERMINATORS [375]
4 Wolf Guard Terminators, Wolf Priest, Drop Pods

LAND SPEEDERS [200]
5 Land Speeder

LAND SPEEDERS [200]
5 Land Speeder

PREDATORS [250]
4 Predator Annihilator

PREDATORS [250]
4 Predator Annihilator

THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON [175]
2 Thunderbolt Fighter-Bombers

STRIKE CRUISER [200]
Space Wolves Strike Cruiser


Heres what my opponent used:

REAVER TITAN [725]
Legate, Carapace Multi-Lasers, 2 Gatling Blaster, Laser Burner

REAVER TITAN [775]
Veteran Princeps, Carapace Multi-Lasers, 2 Gatling Blaster, Plasma Destructor

WARHOUND TITAN PACK [500]
4 Inferno Gun

WARHOUND TITAN PACK [500]
4 Inferno Gun

RECON COHORT [100]
4 Sentinels

RECON COHORT [100]
4 Sentinels

THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON [150]
2 Thunderbolts

THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON [150]
2 Thunderbolts

Setup looked like this:

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TURN 1: SW wins initiative.

SW: thunderbolts go on CAP.
T: sentinels marches.
SW: land speeders doubles forward behind a forest.
T: warhound pack doubles into forest on right flank.
SW: land speeders doubles behind a ruin in themiddle of the board.
T: thunderbolts go on CAP.
SW: great company on right flank doubles forward in front of warhound pack and fires on them for 1BM.
T: reaver titan doubles towards right flank and fires on great fompany, kills 3 rhinos and the hunter.
SW: GReat company by SWblitz goes on OW.
T: warhound pack on left flank doubles down the road to middle ruins.
SW: predators on left flanl advances and fires on warhound pack, stripping 2 shields (1BM).
T: reaver on left flank goes on OW and awaits the drop podding terminators on the next turn.
SW: 2nd predators on left flank advances and fires on warhound pack, 2DC are made (3BM).
T: thunderbolts stand down.

End phase: all formations clear BM:s

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TURN 2: Titans win initiative.

T: warhound pack on right flank sustains on the great company in front of them. Killing 5 stands and breaking the formation.
T: warhound pack in middle ruins retains and fires on predators in front of them, wiping out the formation.
SW: 2nd predators on left flank sustains on warhound pack in ruins. They destroy 1 warhound and breaks the formation.
T: reaver on right flabk doubles into middle ruins and fires on land speeders, killing 2 (3BM).
SW: land speeders behind forest advances and fires on reaver stripping 2 shields.
T: thunderbolts ground attack land speeders but are shot down by interceptong thunderbolts.
T: sentinels retain and doubles and fires on land speeders for 1BM.
SW: land speeders marshalls, clearing all 4 BM:s, and fires back on sentinels for 1 BM.
T: thunderbolts intercept thunderbolts and shots them bot down.
SW: great company by SW blitz doubles up to middle ruins and fires on broken warhound pack.
SW: strike cruiser actovates and drops it's barrage right in the middle of the crossroads by the middle ruins, hitting nothing. 2 drop pods of terminators lands right by the crossroads. The revaer on OW cant get a clear shot and the AMTL players curses loudly.
SW: terminators engages sentinels by middle ruins and wipe them out for no losses.
SW: 2nd terminator formation engages reaver titan and with the help of other terminators and land speeders they destroy the mighty war engine for the loss of 2 stands!

END PHASE:

Great company rallies
Warhound pack rallies.

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TURN 3: SW wins initiative.

SW: terminators engage sentinels by ruins. OW-fire does 1 BM. Te sentinels are wiped out for no losses.
SW: great company by middle ruins retain and engages the warhound pack in front of them. They destroy thetitan for the loss of 1 stand.
T: reaver titan doubles thru forest rightup to te GC and fires on them, killing 6 stands including the SC (7BM).
SW: great company on right flank marches to SW blitz.
T: thunderbolts stand down.
SW: land speeders by middle ruins marches and spreads out across the board to prevent warhound pack to get to the Titan blitz.
T: warhound pack holds and fires on the land speeders killing 3 (4BM).
SW: 2nd lans speeders marches to titan blitz.
SW: terminators marches to objective in forest.

Space Wolves win the game with 3-0 (blitz, T&H and DtF)

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My thoughts:

This game worked great for the SW. I concentrated almost all units on 1 spot and the AMTL opponent did not which was a mistake. To be fair this is only her 3rd game so far at 3K (my wife ).

I have nothing to report about units feeling overpowered ur underpowered. Drop podding terminators are great!

Pictures will come up later today.

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Thanks for sharing!

(b t w wouldn't that be a 4-0 victory I think you have shall not pass as well. I can't see any titans on your half).

True! 4-0 victory it is!!

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Cool report, thanks!

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Good report!



Aren't they just! They're one of a few areas I reckon are overpowered in the SW list. at some point I plan on running a 4k list, forcing the opponent to corner deploy to clump them up and then dropping 5 x Terminator formations onto them. The normal drop pod disadvantage of crossfire is irrelevant for them and the list should be brutal. IMO Drop Podding Terminators should cost MORE than regular Terminators or ideally not be allowed as separate formations at all (Epic-UK modified their SW list from Dobbsy's only having them as Grey Hunters upgrades).

Do people generally teleport standard Termies in this way? Other than the BM issue what's the difference? I would imagine the scatter on the drop pod Termies has an effect on this. It certainly did with the two Great Companies drop I've tried. 1700 points alone in the compulsory 5 base Great Companies (with no shooting) and Strike Cruiser really eats into your forces (3325 for those plus the Termies) leaving you 675 points for random choices to add around 1-4 extra activations.

In a Codex version of this (with 5 Teleporting Termies) you get back the 200 points from the Cruiser, aren't forced to take 275 point Tactical formations (giving you more ability to tailor your force), or scatter your troops due to drop rules and enemy ZOC considerations(who essentially gets to place your troops with clever placement of their own troops). Much more accurate.

Technically, 5 SW Termies cost 365 points each when deepstriking....

Looking forward to your 4K list and batrep.

The Terminators cost 125 points less for a start for no good reason (they're better than normal Terminators when mounted too due to LRCs plus can benefit from Pack Mentality which can be a significant boost). With Drop Pods rather than teleport there would also be 5 x Deathwind attacks, hitting every enemy model within 15cm of each drop pod, so a lot of the enemy army would likely start with blast markers, potentially quite a few blast markers too.

Base Great Companies are a great formation (better than Tactical Marines IMO), so requiring taking 5 of them is no drama. Minimal shooting can be added with a Razorback, the enemy would be more likely to be reacting to the Terminators than to them for a while anyway. 12-15 is the recommended numbers of activations for 4k so 10 (11) with 675 left over should be fine. You'd want to work your strategy around it obviously, placing your two objectives in a triangle 30cm from each other and the enemy blitz, forcing the enemy to deal with them or struggle with victory conditions. I'll test it out at some point anyway and report back.