Yeah it was a crazy game

I wanted to try the 3 SS as I think it addresses some of the delivery issues faced with other choice however it does put all your eggs in the 1 basket and can be defeated.

Steve and I both agreed that there were many other things he could have done with his unexpected win of the strategy roll in turn two.

Steve didn't fire his overwatch from the Hydras as he was hoping to shoot the disembarking wraith formations for that all important blast marker. Ginger don't worry the overwatch wasn't removed when firing in NW. It's just I don't think Steve was expecting the storm serpents to target the hydras.

As for the combat itself the guard only had 2 commissars, they had blast markers.
The guard started the combat 2 up should they have more than double numbers at the end.
They had roughly 15 attacks on 4 and 1 on 6. Several leman russ couldn't see over the Shadowswords.
The eldar, including the fire support from storm serpents and the wraithseers formation had 5 attacks at 3, 13 attacks at 4, 6 MW attacks at 3, 4 MW attacks at 4. And had no blast markers.

Ginger there was nothing courageous about the move, the maths was in the eldars favour.
Even a marginal win for the eldar would have been massive.

As for the SS getting into position behind terrain that blocked line of sight that was a given as the eldar won the roll of first turn. They were also spread to ensure the manticores would struggle to hit more than one. I think Steve sensibly targeted my artillery over the chance of 2hits on the SS. The death strikes were dealt with by the NW which was fairly reasonable to expect as they were out of the AA bubble, just.

Anyway it was an interesting game and I tried a similar list on the weekend against the salamanders. I will try and get the batrep up for that one soon.

Cheers

Mic

Hi all,

Being the gaurd player on this BR it's interesting to look back over it.

Personally I didn't feel at any point that there were bits of the Iyanden list that were overpowered. I really wasn't a fan of the the Biel-Tan eldar after playing it where a combination of the warlock titan and WE disrupt artillery just felt completely dominating for my IG before the game even began.

In this game I went into it thinking is all fine on paper, I knew what would happen if he got into assault and I knew how to stop that happening (take out the transport/portals). Also given how much stuff is starting off the table the activation bonus in turn 1 is quite significant too.

That said you can see how it went. I don't think the result is a reflection of any unbalance in the list, it was my shity tactics that started the failalanche going and Micks BS criticals on the shadowswords that really rubbed salt into the wound.

The hardest thing to really deal with was the multiple units of wraithgaurd with 4+RA, that is just a huge amount of killing you actually need to do which can be quite difficult so if I was looking at points anywhere it would be there. That said if you manage to kill those transports those are slow moving wraithgaurd that can't do much. Of course even if all they did was camp an objective they are ridiculously hard to kill thanks to the RA combo and the fearless to boot. If anything it is the fearless that pushes them into the hardcore category because there really is no clear tactic which you can pull which will help you kill them effectively.

LR by contrast are super hard to kill thanks to armour but if you just break the Cads they are easy to kill off.

Lol, yeah my deployment was average at best (letting in those damn planes to hit my deathstrikes! and I'm still doing this about those first 2 moves in turn 2. I got so fixated on the deep strikers that I completely missed the giant death ball in my face.

Playing Mick is a steel learning curve, playing against Eldar is also a steep learning curve... put them together...

But we'll get back into it soon and you'll hopefully see a better showing... possibly the appearance of stick notes on the table saying DON'T INTERMINGLE!!!

Gents

Fudd and I managed another game the other day, this is how it went down!

Fudds Salamanders (NetEA Tournament Pack 2013)

DEVASTATOR [500]
4 Devastator units, 2 Vulcan Dreadnought, 2 Salamander Devastator units, Chaplain
LAND RAIDER [425]
4 Land Raider Helios
PREDATOR [325]
4 Predator Annihilator, Land Raider
TACTICAL [375]
6 Tactical units, Supreme Commander, Rhinos
THUNDERHAWK [250]
VINDICATOR [375]
4 Vindicators, 2 Land Raider Redeemer
THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON [175]
2 Thunderbolt Fighters
FAST ATTACK [200]
5 Landspeeder
WHIRLWIND [375]
4 whirlwinds, hunter

My Iyanden Craftworld (4.2)

AVATAR [0]
WRAITHGATE [50]
SPIRIT WRAITHBLADE WARHOST [475]
4x Wraithblade units, Wraithseer, 2 Wraithguard, Wraithlord
SPIRIT WRAITHLORD WARHOST [350]
6x Wraithlord units, Spiritseer
SPIRIT WRAITHGUARD WARHOST [275]
4x Wraithguard units, Spiritseer
ASPECT WARRIOR TROUPE [200]
4 Swooping Hawk, Exarch
RANGER TROUPE [100]
4 Ranger
RANGER TROUPE [100]
4 Ranger
SWORDS OF VAUL TROUPE [300]
4 Fire Prism, 2 Fire Storm
NIGHT SPINNER TROUPE [175]
3x Night Spinner units
ENGINE OF VAUL TROUPE [650]
Cobra, 2 Storm Serpent (please note the scorpions are storm serpents and the void spinner is the cobra, I hope this doesn’t confuse anyone).
PHOENIX BOMBERS [325]
3x Phoenix Bombers


Deployment
Salamanders called corner deployment.

Objectives
Both Blitzs were set up half way along each players long edge. The remaining objectives were central to the halfway line in the heart of the table. The Iyanden elected for the Wraithgate to be set up near the ruins and forest as seen in the pics below.

Garrison
Both Ranger 1 and 2 garrisoned setting up overwatch screens around the Iyanden deployment. The Salamanders didn’t garrison.

Remianing deployments were as per pics with the Wraithblades, Wraithguard, Wraithlords, Swooping Hawks all in then Webway.







Turn 1

Salamanders win the strategy roll and elect to go first.

Salamanders- The Thunderbolts kick off proceedings by strafing Ranger 2 killing 1 and placing 2 blast markers.
Iyanden- Ranger 2 activate and marshal after the make a single move forward.
Salamanders- The Land Raiders march to a cluster of ruins on the left of the Salamander deployment.
Iyanden- Ranger 1 activate and go onto overwatch.
Salamander- Landspeeders advance behind the hill right up the back of the table and out of harms way.
Iyanden- Swords of Vaul move fire move with the fire prisms firing on the recently moved Land Raiders killing 1 before moving back into a position where the Fire storms could fire on the Thunderbolts as they fly off.
Salamanders- The Land Raiders Helios double forward to behind the ruins in the centre of the table near three objectives.
Iyanden- Night Spinners activate and sustain to drop a barrage on the Helios for 3 hits and 1 Kill for 4 blast markers.
Salamanders- The vindicator and Landraider formation advanced towards the ruins in the centre of the table.
Iyanden- The Wraithguard engage the Helios out of the Wraithgate killing two of the landraiders and taking no casualties in return. The remaining Helios was overrun and destroyed. The Wraithguard consolidated into the centre ruins.
Salamanders- The whirlwinds responded in kind and avenging the death of the salamander BTS by dropping a barrage on the victorious Wraithguard hitting 3 and killing…3!
The remaining stand containing the spirit seer retreated forward to a forest where he might be in a better position to launch the Avatar if he survives the turn.
Iyanden- Phoenix Bombers sweep in a drop their payload on the Whirlwinds whilst dodging the Hunter shot and manage to destroy one of the artillery pieces.
Salamanders- The predators Annihilators triple forward to a position behind the Vindicators.
Iyanden- The Engines of Vaul activated and went onto overwatch concerned about the Thunderhawk and its payload of death.
Salamanders- The Thunderhawk engages the broken stand from the Wraithguard and destroys it with the Devastators taking position in the forest where they can fire upon the Wraithgate.

Rally Phase.
All the flyers fly off with the Thunderbolts receiving a blast marker for flying through flak from the fire prisms.
Both players successfully rally all units with only the Landraiders and Whirlwinds left with a blast marker.






Turn 2

Salamanders win the strategy roll and elect to go first.

Salamanders- The Devastators activate and go to overwatch covering the Wraithgate.
Salamanders- The Vind/LR formation retains and also go on overwatch covering the Wraithgate.
Iyanden- Ranger 1 triple towards the pure Land Raider formation setting up a screen blocking the Landraiders from attacking the night spinners easily.
Salamanders- the Landraiders march back towards the salamanders centre.
Iyanden- Ranger 2 march forward to cover in the centre of the table.
Salamanders- the Thunderbolts commence a combat air patrol.
Iyanden- The Night Spinners sustained on the Devastator formation hitting 3, killing 1for 4 blast markers.
Salamanders- The Predators activate doubling forward to behind the ruins in the centre of the table and fire on Ranger 2 for a blast marker.
Iyanden- The Engines of Vaul fail to activate and move forward carrying an additional blast marker.
Salamanders- The Land speeders hold their position behind the hill.
Iyanden- Swords of Vaul double forward destroying a predator and awarding 2 blast markers.
Salamanders- The Tactical formation doubles into the heart of the Eldar line and destroys a fire prism for 2 blast markers.
Iyanden- Phoenix Bombers attack the Tactical formation destroying 2 rhinos and 2 Tacticals for 7 blast markers (extras from disrupt hits).
Salamanders- Whirlwind launches a sustain salvo on the Engines of Vaul for 1 blast marker after it failed to cause any damage.
Iyanden- Swooping Hawks engage the remainder of the Tactical formation from the forward Storm Serpent in a clipping assault. The hawks kill the Hunter from the Tacticals for no casualties in return. Fire support comes in from the Swords of Vaul killing two more stands. The Eldar win by 5 leaving only the Salamander Supreme Commander to retreat away behind the ruins.

Rally Phase.
All Flyers fly off with out incident.

All Marines rallied except for the Supreme Commander from the Tacticals.
All the Eldar rallied clearing one blast marker each. Swords of Vaul failed to rally.





Turn 3

Salamanders win strategy roll and elect to go first.

Salamanders- Predators double forward and kill a Fire Prism for 2 blast markers.
Iyanden- Phoenix Bombers fail to go on CAP.
Salamanders- The whirlwinds fire on the Swords of Vaul breaking them.
Iyanden- The engines of Vaul fail to activate again, the advance towards the ruins in the centre of the table taking an extra blast marker with them.
Salamanders- The Thunderbolts attack Ranger 1 killing 2 breaking the formation.
Iyanden- Swooping Hawks engage predators destroying the formation with support fire from the Engines of Vaul. The Hawks consolidate forming a screen from close to the Salamander blitz to in fornt of the Vindicators and Land Raiders putting them into the Scout zone of control.
Salamanders- The Landraiders advance towards their own blitz and kill to swooping hawks breaking the formation.
Iyanden- The Wraithseer finally hit the table doubling out of the forward Storm Serpent towards the Vindicators and Landraiders fire on them killing a Landraider and vindicator for 3 blast markers. The Vindicators weren’t able to fire their overwatch as they were in the swooping hawk’s zone of control.
Salamanders- The devastators in the Thunderhawk engage the broken swords of Vaul that weren’t far from the blitz. The remaining Eldar skimmers were destroyed for the loss of another devastator unit.
Iyanden- The Wraithlord assault out Wraithgate engaging the vindicators in a fire fight with the support of the Wraithseers wraithgaurd and Wraithlord which wiped the remaining vindicators and Landraider out for no loss.
Salamanders- The land speeders doubled out from behind the hill to hold an objective.
Iyanden- The Night Spinners activated and fired on the Devastators holding the Iyanden Blitz breaking them.
Iyanden- Ranger 2 marched back to the Iyanden Blitz to also ensure that it was contested.

Rally Phase.
All flyers flew off.

The Devastators failed to rally.
The Swooping Hawks also failed to rally while the Engines of Vauls managed to clear another blast marker. Ranger 2 also rallied clearing a blast marker.

No clear winner, a fourth turn is required.



Turn 4

The Wraithseer summoned the Avatar close to the Whirlwinds.

Iyanden win the strategy roll and elect to go first.

Iyanden- The Avatar launches into the whirlwinds wiping them out in a very one sided assault. The Avatar then consolidates towards the Land raiders holding the Salamanders blitz.
Iyanden- The Phoenix Bombers retain and attack the Land speeders killing 2 and placing 4 blast markers.
Salamanders- The Land raiders sustain fire on the Avatar doing 2 DC which breaks and retreats to forest nearby.
Iyanden- The Engines of Vaul advance on the Land Speeders killing 2 and breaking the formation and also was now holding that objective.
Salamanders- Thunderhawk fires on the Engines of Vaul with its battle cannon doing a damage for 2 blast markers.
Iyanden- Ranger 2 sustain fire on the broken devastators for nothing.
Iyanden- The Night Spinners sustained on the Devastators again for nothing.
Iyanden- Wraithlords overwatch
Iyanden- Wraithblades and Wraithseer overwatch

Rally Phase.
All flyers flew off with only the Thunderhawk taking another blast marker from the Cobra. The Avatar returned to the Craftworld.

Swooping Hawks Rallied along with the Engines of Vaul.
The remaining Land speeder and devastators rallied on the eldars half.

Final result
3-0 Iyanden
Take and Hold
BTS
Defend the flag



Comments and thoughts,
The Iyanden were lucky to get a chance to destroy the Salamanders BTS early however they struggled to get the gates in place turn 2 and 3 with the Engines of Vaul failing to activate twice! It really hurts the Iyanden when the Wraithseer is off table and formations are carrying blast markers.

It was an interesting game and I have to say that Fudds Salamanders are amazingly well painted.

Anyway I have another Batrep coming with an Air heavy list for something different again.

Cheers

Mic

thanks for the report!

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Great report. I never knew about the no Overwatch when in zone of control bit so that was cool

Thanks for the report, and especially for the use of the triple EoV formation.
Please could you both comment on its use in this game.

I believe this is wrong. You can't go into Overwatch when activating the unit because they have to leave or Engage, but if you're already in Overwatch there are no restrictions on firing due to ZoC. From the FAQ:

'Q: Can a formation on overwatch use its overwatch fire when it is in the zone of control of an enemy formation.

A: Yes, as it is not taking an action when shooting while on overwatch. However, it could not choose to remain on overwatch as it would have to charge the enemy or leave its zone of control.'

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Thanks for the report. Everyone seems to be having more luck with the Iyanden then I am at the moment.

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Well spotted IJW !
As he says, in turn #3 there is an incorrect assumption

As IJW says, the Vindicators *could* have used their OW in the SH ZoC. However the Vindis could not *activate* to go onto OW (or to sustain) in an enemy's ZoC as they would have to use this activation to move somewhere, either to assault the SH or to leave the SH ZoC.

Thanks for clearing that up IJW, we weren't sure how it played at the time and even sought a third opinion. I did make a point of including it in the batrep so that someone might highlight if we played it incorrectly. Thanks

Ginger, I am really liking the 3 EOV formation for Iyanden as the list presently stands. Having 2 storm serpents and a cobra is better than three storm serpents. While the formation is vulnerable to some things I find the biggest problem is that they are activating on a 2 or even a 3 with a blast marker most likely with the Wraithseer off the table so no re-roll. This is a pretty risky all or nothing venture so I guess a lot of consideration has to be given in how to incorporate the Wraithgate into the overall eldar strategy. Steve's (beefcake 4000) feedback on a list with this formation in it was it was 'scary shit' but I am sure he will chime in. I am sure Fudd will similarly have some thoughts to add also.

I will certainly be tinkering with some more builds centred around the 3 EOV.

What are your thoughts?

Mic

Well, I was musing on how to destroy it, and cam to the conclusion that a 9DC skimming formation is quite hard and only really vulnerable to shooting. However even then, you can swap the lead EoV around to distribute the firepower and also spread them out to avoid barrages, while the other EoV will soak up shots from large formations of tanks etc. I agree that 3x SS may not be ideal, though even that formation will provide a scary amount of AT fire together with a surprising amount of FF 4+ support . . . .

It does become an automatic target for Deathstrikes, so you need some form of counter which adds to the overall cost of the formation. But all in all, the formation may be a lot tougher than it first appears and so may well provide a very plausible counter-argument to the proposed update to the cost of additional EoV.

Mmmm I think at 650 points is already a massive point sink. At this stage I would not think it as viable at 750 and for me at the moment it feels balanced. However I will certainly give the combo some more table time, I am also musing on a BT list that would centre on Aspects and or fully upgraded Guardians assaulting out of the gates.

Mic

Gents

Another Batrep, this time Steve run his Minervans against my Iyanden. This time I thought I'd try a greater amount of air asests however this was at the expense of delivery systems for the wraith formations.

Steve's Minervans
8 Exterminators/2 Executioners/Hydra/SC
8 Russ/2 Executioners/Hydra/
Shadowsword
Salamanders+ Command
Deathstikes
Manticores
Warhound
Warhound
Thunderbolts
Thunderbolts

My list- Iyanden Craftworld (4.2)

-AVATAR [0]
-WRAITHGATE [50]
-SPIRIT WRAITHGUARD WARHOST [325]
4x Wraithguard units, Spiritseer, Wraithguard
-SPIRIT WRAITHBLADE WARHOST [225]
4x Wraithblade units, Spiritseer
-SPIRIT WRAITHLORD WARHOST [450]
6x Wraithlord units, Wraithseer
-NIGHTWING INTERCEPTORS [300]
3x Nightwing Interceptors
-PHOENIX BOMBERS [325]
3x Phoenix Bombers
-VAMPIRE RAIDER [200]
-SPACECRAFT [150]
Wraithship
-ASPECT WARRIOR TROUPE [200]
4 Swooping Hawk, Exarch
-RANGER TROUPE [125]
5 Ranger
-NIGHT SPINNER TROUPE [175]
3x Night Spinner units
-NIGHT SPINNER TROUPE [175]
3x Night Spinner units
-SWORDS OF VAUL TROUPE [300]
5 Fire Prism, 1 Fire Storm

Deployment Phase

The Minervans set their blitz along their short table edge and both their forward objectives fairly deep in the Iyanden deployment.
Iyanden had their blitz set up along their long edge and both forward objectives were in each corner on the half way line.

The Iyanden Wraithship was to arrive turn one and was committed to a bombardment.

The deployments were as per the pics below. Iyanden had the Wraithguard and Swooping Hawks in the Webway while the WraithBlades were in the Vampire.





Turn 1
Iyanden win the strategy roll and elect to go first.

Iyanden- The Wraithship arrives launching an orbital bombardment. It covers all units of both the manticore and death strike formations but only manages to destroy a single death strike which broke the other and the Mainticore took a blast marker.
Iyanden- The Phoenix bombers retain weathering the AA fire from a hydra to attack the Manticores, destroying one and breaking the remaining two who remain where they are.
Minervan- The thunderbolts intercept the Phoniex bombers and fail to shoot any down but add a blast marker.
Iyanden- The Rangers marched away from the salamanders to set up a screen in front the swords of Vaul.
Minervans- The Shadow Sword doubles forward and managed an angel on a Night Spinner which it promptly destroys which breaks Night Spinner 2 which move up behind the stone pillars.
Iyanden- The Wraithlords march forward also behind the stone pillars.
Minervans- Warhound 1 advance and fire on the Rangers scoring 2 hits with both saving for a single blast marker.
Iyanden- Night Spinners 1 sustain on Warhound 1 stripping both shields and leaving it with a blast marker.
Minervans- The salamanders advance firing on the Rangers killing 1 stand for 2 more blast markers.
Iyanden- The Swords of Vaul move fire move at Warhound 1 for another 1 Damage which breaks it. The Warhound stumbles back towards its own table edge.
Minervans- The Exterminators double forward towards the centre of the table.
Iyanden- Night Wing intercept thunderbolt 1 scoring 4 hits which the Thunderbolts jinked their way clear for a single blast marker.
Minervans- The Leman Russ advance forward.
Iyanden- The Vampire deliver the WraithBlades to assault the Shadow Sword and despite 7 hits including MW only 1 DC was taken. The commissar prevented the shadow sword from being run down and it retreated away.
Minervans- Warhound 2 doubles towards the WraithBlades but isn't in range for a shot.
Iyanden- The Wraithguard march out of the wraith gate and occupy the ruins towards the salamanders and exterminators.
Minervans- Thunderbolt 2 strafe and destroy Night Spinner 2.

Rally Phase
Both the Phoniex bombers and Night wing are fired at from the hydra in the leman russ but it fails to hit anything.
All other flyers fly off without dramas.

Despite the Wraithseers re-roll the Rangers failed to rally. The Manticores also failed to rally with the supreme commander re-roll, along with the Shadow Sword. The remaining death strike and Warhound 1 rallied.




Turn 2

The spiritseer from the WraithBlades summoned the Avatar where it might be able to assault the Shadow Sword or Warhound 1.

Minervans win the strategy roll and elect to go first.

Minervans- Warhound 1 single moved away from the Avatar letting rip with all it's weapons doing 2 damage and breaking the bloody handed god.
Minervans- The Salamanders retain firing on the Wraithguard in the ruins for one blast marker.
Iyanden- The Wraithguard attempt to engage the Salamanders but fail to Activate and clear the blast markers.
Minervans- The last Death Strike activates and fires on Night Spinner 1 destroying a vehicle and breaking the formation.
Iyanden- The Rangers fail to activate and break with the additional blast marker.
Minervans- Thunderbolt 2 fails to CAP.
Iyanden- The WraithBlades march away from the Minervans to some ruins.
Minervan- Thunderbolt 1 go on CAP.
Iyanden- Phoniex Bombers fail to activate.
Minervans- Exterminators activate and sustain fire on the Wraithguard in the ruins. The kill two stands which breaks the formation. Which retreats to ruins towards the short table edge.
Iyanden- The Wraithlords with the Wraithseer marched to the single stone pillar covering the approaches to objectives.
Minervans- Warhound 2 doubled across to fire on the broken Wraithguard with both weapon systems but failed to penetrate the armour.
Iyanden- The Night Wing managed to activate and attacked the salamanders but failed to hit anything. Prior to this TB 1 intercepted them from CAP destroying 1 night wing for 2 blast markers. 1 blast marker for the Salamanders.
Iyanden- The Swords if Vaul fire on the Salamanders breaking the formation after destroying two vehicles.
Iyanden- The Vampire flys in and picks up the WraithBlades.

Rally Phase.
Night Wing flew off with another blast marker from a Hydra.
Thunderbolt 1 looses an aircraft after the fire storm finds it's mark, 2 blast markers.
Vampire flys off with the wraith blades no problems.

All eldar rallied while the Manticores again failed.



Turn 3

Iyanden win the strategy

Iyanden- Swords of Vaul strip the shields of Warhound 2 leaving it with a blast marker.
Iyanden- The Wraithguard retain and engage Warhound 2 doing 1 damage that went critical for no damage in return. The Warhound lost the combat and broke but remained in the ruins where it was. The Wraithguard consolidated to manage 1 stand in range of the Minervan blitz.
Minervan- Thunderbolt 1 go to CAP
Iyanden- Night Wing fail to activate.
Minervan- Thunderbolt 2 fail to activate.
Iyanden- The Rangers march back to cover the blitz and another objective.
Minervans- the Exterminators double forward and fire on the Wraithlords destroying 1 for 2 blast markers.
Iyanden- the swooping hawks march out of the Wraithgate trying to set up a wide screen around the blitz however they were caught in overwatch fire from the Leman Russ and shredded.
Minervans- Warhound 1 doubled firing on the wraithgaurd shredding the spirit seer and another stand breaking the remaining stand which held its ground. Iyanden- The Wraithlords marched back to the cover of another stone pillar to hold another objective. Minervans- The lone Death strike doubled to the Minervan Blitz. Iyanden- the Phoenix Bombers attacked the Death Strike and were intercepted by the Thunderbolts which shot down one of the fighter bombers that tried to junk their way clear. 2 blast markers. Minervans- The Shadow Sword failed to activate despite the SC re-roll and cleared the blast markers. Iyanden- The Vampire activated dropping the WraithBlades on the Death Strikes head obliterating the vehicles to capture the Minervan Blitz.

Rally Phase.
All flyers flew off with no incidents
All formations rallied except Warhound 1 and the last Wraithguard.

Results
3-0 Iyanden
Blitz, Take and hold and Defend the Flag.


Comments
It was a good game with the balance tipping throughout the game.
I had designed my list to try and stretch my opponent with corner deployment wherever I could. The idea being that this would hopefully allow the air asests to shine. The inclusion of the Wraithship was primarily to disrupt my opponents deployment and if lucky hit something valuable, in this case I was covering both artillery formations however Steve made sure these formations were benefiting from cover.
The risk for this list was limited delivery systems for the wraith formations. However I had planned to initially deploy the Wraithlords on the table as I really wanted the Wraithseer's reroll from the get go. Despite their lack of speed I think the Wraithlords with the Wraithseer is the most optimum for this strategy.
I am really appreciating the Wraithblade and Vampire combo and feel that this will be an auto include for most of my Iyanden lists.
Also the swooping hawks in the last few games have been offering this list a lot. They are also another method to try and deal with opposition artillery formations if teleported but have done well out of gates.
However I am struggling with rallying or clearing blast markers from Wraithformations and feel it might be worth considering giving the Spiritseers the leader ability.

Anyway I am sure Steve had some thoughts from the game.

Cheers

Mic