Thanks for the additional comments guys!



Given the special deployment you get with Harridan and Trygon brood creatures (e.g. mostly immune to arty until they arrive on target), and the relatively low cost of them, maybe they could do with being in the 1/3 limit anyway, just as aircraft are in other races lists? And like I said I wouldn't bother including the single Nexus swarm in this limit either. With the list I used in this battle such a list structure would still mean I would have to drop one of the Harridan or Hierodule swarms, or all the gargoyles.

I'd also note that problems an army might have against WE will also apply to any WE heavy list, thus there's little justification for restriicting Tyranid WE more than other armies on that account. A pure BioTitan list is another thing entirely of course, facing all the problems other Titan lists face.

Also wouldn't it make sense to just tweak the list stucture slightly before approving the list?

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I just don't want to reset the playtest counters back to 0. If it gets approved changing it involves Tim's sign off, but to get it approved we need 3 groups to submit at least 5 battle reports.

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Ok how many battlereports/groups more do you need then?

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I need one more group to give me 5 reports.

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So that could be my group then I take it? If so how would you like me to try and break the list?
I.e. what worries people about it at the moment?

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Just to be clear, the struggle I had was with my Tau list rather than the Tyranids.

It really only contains light AT weaponry: almost all AT6+ (31 shots on ground, 8 in air), 4 x AT5+, 2 x AT4+ (all in the air), and 8 MW4+ (with only a 15 cm range).

Missing were Broadside Suits, Hammerheads, Tiger Shark AX-1-0s, Manta and Spacecraft all pretty useful to balance the play sheet. A couple of TK weapons somewhere in the army would make the smaller bio-titans rather less scary.

I do think I could do a better job with a more balanced list.
But mostly Mark played a beautifully concentrated wave of Tyranid flesh
and on several points I played, . . . less well, . . .

Absolutely.

WE heavy still needs testing, the big stuff and Harridan spam. Beyond that, trying to recreate the independent swarms, only within a Synapse Swarm (so a small synapse swarm with Exocrine, etc.).

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Right will do, cheers.

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I haven't played with tyranids, but have played against them a few times. I agree with Markonz. The dominatrix and trygons probably don't need to be included.

There's also people interested in removing the 0-1 on the Nexus Swarm. That would mean dropping the Dom by 50 points and removing SC, then adding a 0-1 per army option to the Nexus Swarm to put the SC back on. With that I think the Nexus would need to be in the 1/3 WE section.

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I approve(!) of this approach. Release early, release often.



I'd put the Psychic attack as part of the SC upgrade, and price it at (say) 100 points instead. And yes, multiple Doms should fall under the WE limit, however imposed.

From a modeling perspective, it's attractive - there are many reasonably priced Doms on ebay, still. Not that this should drive list development, of course...