Regarding the Skysweep formation - I've used it twice in the last fortnight and it's been broken for pretty much the entire game on both occasions (including rallying back with 1 BM only to fail it's activation and break again...twice   ).

I'm not convinced that the Skysweep should've been bumped up in price. More testing will is on the cards.

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I will be perfectly happy to have my concerns proved unfounded.

Onyx: How may Skysweep formations did you take? One of the reasons for the bump was to make taking multiple Skysweep formations more difficult. The number of formations that was brought up was 3-4.

Dobbsy: Looking forward to the tournament report.

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Anyone doing so will be in for a rude shock IMO  

edit- Sorry this is a bit of a derailment of the Orks vs Tau batrep. My apologies

In both games I used one formation. You probably have a point about limiting their numbers but formations of 3 are the weakest in the game (have to pay more for 3 units than just 2 and still broken on 1 casualty).

I still had another Skyray floating about in another formation and a squadron of Barracudas (which managed to very luckily shoot down 4 Thunderbolts in 1 game with no loss) so AA was still managable.

I wouldn't feel confident fielding 3 - 4 Skyrays formations. They seem very fragile to me.

Like Dobbsy, I'm sorry for derailing your Bat-Rep  

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No worries on the "batrep that was not".  

I am in agreement with both of you, but the point was made by a couple of people, though playtesting has yet to come through.

Dobbsy, I am looking forward to reading yours/Chromas batrep. I noted the Tau OOB when the post originally went up. So at your convenience...

I do think we are in general agreement, however.

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I think there is a terminology issue at play here.

It seems that most people use the term 'popcorn' to mean an abuse of the activation system. I believe Honda is using 'popcorn' as an expression of "lots of the same".

Like a SM army with 6 Terminator Squads and 4 Thunderbolt Pairs. Lots of uniformity, but a 10 Activation Count isn't popcorn by most people's understanding. Honda seems to be calling that kind of army popcorn (for the lack of variety), but I'm not sure there's a term for it.

Morgan Vening

It's not a "popcorn" or "MSU" list but it is a "Spam" list.

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Here's a spam list for example

Spam list Alpha

Self Processing Artificial Meat... mmm...

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That's a very obvious statement and be asured Hena, that they were kept well away from the front lines.

Not much a Tau player can do when the enemy has Deathstrikes (no other better targets) and Manticores. FAR better arty formation's than Skysweep!

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Yes, this is a better representation of my concern. So I agree that "popcorn" as I think Rug is defining, is not possible with the current list.

And also to clarify, I personally have no problems with a bunch of 2+ initiative crisis formations. I just want to make sure that the 1+ doesn't tip anything over.

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Spam lists can often be relied upon to beat a certain army type (for example Skyray spamming might reliably beat Marine Thunderhawk assault lists), but will typically find their nemesis in another common enemy list type (they'd lose against Ork infantry Horde lists, for example).

So proving that a Spam list can beat up on one type of army is not good enough to prove it overpowered, you must then go on to prove it is overpowered against the majority of army list types.

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