Quote: (frogbear @ Feb. 18 2010, 14:32 )
At the end of the day, I guess I am pretty 'black and white' with my belief in that if an AC is not even prepared to playtest his/her own list within a year of games played, it is not a 'competing' list. It then becomes a question of whether it is ego over list progress. Why hold a list if you are not actively developing it? Why hold it to ransom over other developments?
Frogbear, do you not also realize that "spamming" a whole bunch of your own playtests can be just as much of an "ego" hold over a list?  Especially if such playtests span multiple, significantly changed versions.  Your count of "20+" games doesn't actually hold much water if that's over 5+ revisions.
Honestly, it's *irrelevant* how many times an Army Champion playtests their own list; the true tests come from people not directly affiliated with the list playtesting it, fresh eyes bringing fresh perspectives.
Personal example: Earlier in Tyranid development, I'd posted many games and the list seemed pretty balanced to me, lots of play, development and editing; things were looking good!  Then a player in
Neal's group, thousands of miles away, picked up the list, and put together an army that was, essentially, unstoppable because of rules interactions my own group, and others, hadn't seen... it forced a complete revision of the list... one that would not occured from my own internal testing.
You're taking not-so-subtle digs at
Dobbsy because he hasn't "played" his list, but he *is* actively developing it, posting updates and asking for feedback; I'd say, statistically, the same number of "external" players have playtested both your lists, so you harping on him for not "self testing" his army comes off as a petty.  It's not his fault other people aren't testing his list, nor are they testing yours, interest just isn't that high. ÂÂ
If you're going for a "everything Khorne" army, that is Bloodgors, and Bloodslaughters, and Bloodpacks, and all that, which objectively seems to be what interest you, why is the "World Eaters" name needed?  If your focus *isn't* World Eaters Legionaires, then why do you need the name?  Let the army stand and make its own name on its own merits.