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SM Dreads
Tas	Post subject: SM Dreads Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 1:14 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2003 10:01 am Posts: 7823 Location: Sydney, NSW	Hi Guys, Many of you would have seen (and participated in) the campaign issues on the EA playtesting board.  There were many great proposals put forward toward this, but tghey are mostly for methods of accruing experience and the rewards of battlehardening. I recall seeing a good set of (GW sponsored if not produced) campaign rules for 2nd Ed.  It was kind of a map system where you divided your army into main battle detachments and scouting forces and manourved them aorund.  It had some very basic supply line rules as well, and fatigue rules. In short, it was a very basic wargame, abstract enough not to encumbre with extranoues detail, but enough to get forces into contact and battel it out on the table top (and it was a refreshing change form playing "Fire in the East" as you fellow grognards would knwo  ) Anyhow, the point is- has anybody got a copy?  I unfortunately dont, but would like to get a set so I can use and modify them (of course!) for EA and get a small campaign going. Anyone?  Bueller?  Bueller? _________________ Tas My General blog: http://tasmancave.blogspot.com/ My VSF Blog: http://pauljamesog.blogspot.com/ My ECW Blog: http://declaresir.blogspot.com/
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netepic	Post subject: SM Dreads Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 4:48 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 4:26 pm Posts: 7016 Location: Southfields, London, England	We had the Empire of the Stars campaign system set up on the EPICentre at one point. It was a NetEPIC/BFG crossover, and was quite popular locally, never made much of an impression on the net. (Although when it came down, ironically a load of people complained.) I could either upload it to the site, or I could submit it to the EZine... what do people think? _________________ Tom Webb Author Page: http://www.newtonwebb.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/thewebb Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/thenewtonwebb Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/thenewtonwebb
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stormseer	Post subject: SM Dreads Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 4:53 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Fri Feb 14, 2003 9:52 pm Posts: 4598 Location: Suffolk, UK.	Sounds interesting- yeah, why not put it to Incoming? -When is the next issue out btw?  -I'm not being impatient!! hehe _________________ www.darkrealmminiatures.com
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Tas	Post subject: SM Dreads Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 9:40 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2003 10:01 am Posts: 7823 Location: Sydney, NSW	Hey I love to see everybody's work and tinkering. IMNSHO, a Campaign triples the fun of any game you play _________________ Tas My General blog: http://tasmancave.blogspot.com/ My VSF Blog: http://pauljamesog.blogspot.com/ My ECW Blog: http://declaresir.blogspot.com/
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netepic	Post subject: SM Dreads Posted: Fri May 09, 2003 12:10 am
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 4:26 pm Posts: 7016 Location: Southfields, London, England	I will leave that Q for Douglas, but I will submit the EOTS rules to him ASAP and then perhaps we might be able to share a little project a group of us are working on at the moment for those 28mm players amongst you in the issue after that... _________________ Tom Webb Author Page: http://www.newtonwebb.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/thewebb Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/thenewtonwebb Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/thenewtonwebb
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darkone26	Post subject: SM Dreads Posted: Fri May 09, 2003 9:24 am
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2003 2:34 pm Posts: 956	I for one would be fine to put it in Incoming. It is a nice combo to see rules, battle report and opinions in general and makes for a good read.  The more ideas and input from everyone the better incoming would get. Thats the aim isnt it ? Doug
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netepic	Post subject: SM Dreads Posted: Fri May 09, 2003 11:41 am
Brood Brother Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 4:26 pm Posts: 7016 Location: Southfields, London, England	Do you know when the due date is for the next EZine issue? _________________ Tom Webb Author Page: http://www.newtonwebb.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/thewebb Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/thenewtonwebb Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/thenewtonwebb
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nightserpent	Post subject: SM Dreads Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 3:59 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2003 5:34 pm Posts: 88 Location: Boston, Massachusetts, USA	I tried the first training scenario (objective with 2 formations of 6 units on each side) yesterday. I didn't have any marine models available, so we made do with my Orks. I gather this made it harder (using small formations of Orks, rather than the reliable marines), but we had to make do with what I had. I tried not to think of it as an accurate representation of an Epic game, rather a way to get a sense for the rules. But a couple of questions came up, and I was hoping you all could help me... Other than being able to, perhaps, gang up more of your models in base to base, what is the real benefit of charging? ? I gather if you are a more HTH oriented formation, or you greatly outnumber the opponent, you have better odds... But there appears to be no real bonus to being the assault-er. Am I missing something? Retaining the initiative: in the above mission, say I go first. I nominate formation A to carry out an action. Then, I decide to retain the initiative and attempt to force formation B to make an action as well. Then, my opponent carries out an action with one of his formations. Back to my turn, can I carry out an action with formation B? Or, did it already make it's action for the turn when it retained the initiative? In other words, can retaining the initiative actually grant an extra action for the formation, or is it merely pushing it's action to the head of the line? Thanks in advance for any help you can give me! _________________ pics of my minis
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MaksimSmelchak

Post subject: SM Dreads Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 5:27 pm

Brood Brother Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2003 4:43 pm Posts: 7258 Location: Sacramento, California, USA

NightSerpent, Other than being able to, perhaps, gang up more of your models in base to base, what is the real benefit of charging? Good question. I'm not sure of the answer. Where's Dafrca when you need him? I'm pretty sure that charge is the only way to go straight to HtH rather than firefight. I'm not as invested in the rules anymore as I once was. The playtesting forum isn't as enchanting as it once was. I gather if you are a more HTH oriented formation, or you greatly outnumber the opponent, you have better odds... But there appears to be no real bonus to being the assault-er. Am I missing something?

That must be wrong. However, the HtH rules are a bit odd. It's possible for both sides to really lose out.

Retaining the initiative: in the above mission, say I go first. I nominate formation A to carry out an action. Then, I decide to retain the initiative and attempt to force formation B to make an action as well. Then, my opponent carries out an action with one of his formations. Back to my turn, can I carry out an action with formation B?

No, if it lost the initiative then it used up its' action. Bummer!

At least, that's how I understood the rule.

Or, did it already make it's action for the turn when it retained the initiative?

It already made it's action.

In other words, can retaining the initiative actually grant an extra action for the formation, or is it merely pushing it's action to the head of the line?

You can try for a double action, but if you already failed an initiative then it's done, period. So, in your words, it's like pushing its' action to the front of the line.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give me!

You're welcome although I'm not sure how much help it was.

Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.