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Advice on UK Customs?... (Please Help!)
nealhunt	Post subject: Advice on UK Customs?... (Please Help!) Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 9:16 pm
Purestrain Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:52 pm Posts: 9617 Location: Nashville, TN, USA	Even though I'm tired of it, I'm playing Orks v Marines tomorrow and wanted to solicit opinions on this 4K GT list. ================ Big Rollaz ?440 Warband 2 Nobz Flakwagon Gunwagon Battlefortress Da Boyz ?350 Big Warband Shooty Boyz ?470 Uge Gunzmob 2 Nobz 4 Boyz/grots Stompaz ?350 Big Stompamob 2 Kanz Air 'Zalt Boyz ?290 Stormboyz 4 Dethkoptas 2 x Tankboyz ?300 ea. Blitz Brigade (1 flak, 2 gun, 1 oddboy) Oddboy Gunfortress Bikerz ?200 KoS Kartz ?350 Big KoS (5 scorcha, 11 buggies/trakks) Flyboyz ?300 Da Boss ?650 Gargant (2 Soopagunz, 1 SupaZzap gun) Warlord ====== 11 formations. I intend to garrison stompaz-boyz-shooty for a solid line of greenskins and run the gargant up behind them ASAP in order to get mutual support against the rather nasty SM assaults. Stormboyz will garrison off to one side, hopefully to catch a target of opportunity.  If not, they are fast enough to re-deploy.Bikes and buggies will work as maneuver assault elements, just father back. Tankboyz will move to provide fire towards the heaviest concentration of hard targets (LRs, Warhounds, etc.) Flyboyz are to hit arty and then targets of opportunity, probably including deep strikes (teleporters/drop pods/thawks). Da Big Rollaz are the reserve force to fill in the line or to deploy in the backfield against deep strikes. Suggestions?  Is 3 supaZzaps overkill vs. marines?  Is 3 flakwagons and the FB overkill on AA? _________________ Neal
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Shadow Hunter	Post subject: Advice on UK Customs?... (Please Help!) Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 11:05 am
Brood Brother Joined: Fri Jan 17, 2003 11:41 am Posts: 1747 Location: Norton Canes, Cannock, Staffs, UK	I think it looks good, but then I haven't played such a large game. Against Marines, I would think you need a few MW/Titan killer shots.  With their Land Raiders and termies, there are plenty of reinforced armoured units. Tell us how you get on, I'd like to hear a report on such a large battle (especially as I dont get to game myself).
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nealhunt	Post subject: Advice on UK Customs?... (Please Help!) Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 5:46 pm
Purestrain Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:52 pm Posts: 9617 Location: Nashville, TN, USA	Well... it was a blowout.  In 2 turns, the SMs failed 6 or 7 activations (with only 11 formations).  A couple activations into Turn 3 also included a failed activation on his part.  And he had really lousy rally rolls. Combined with the fact that a couple good attack rolls on my part broke formations which hadn't activated yet, that meant that about half of his army did absolutely nothing. Not much of a battle.  We called it shortly into turn 3, once it became obvious there was absolutely nothing he could do to stop me from taking 4 objectives, including the table edge. I really felt bad for him.  I hate to win that way. In the "lessons learned" column, I would say that the Blitz Brigades are very good formations.  Although fairly small and fragile, they are relatively quick and have lots of firepower.  On the first turn I double moved and fired at a Warhound.  With blow average rolls on the big gunz/twin big shootas (2 hits total to strip shield) and an above average roll on the supazzap gun (3 points of TK damage), I killed it in one shot. On the just-released army list, the point cost went up to 335 for the formation, but I will still be taking it. _________________ Neal
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Shadow Hunter	Post subject: Advice on UK Customs?... (Please Help!) Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 4:21 pm
Brood Brother Joined: Fri Jan 17, 2003 11:41 am Posts: 1747 Location: Norton Canes, Cannock, Staffs, UK	Well, it would be interesting to play them again, and see how it pans out this time.  The Marines had some real bad luck -> failing 6 activations!!!
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nealhunt	Post subject: Advice on UK Customs?... (Please Help!) Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 5:29 pm
Purestrain Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 10:52 pm Posts: 9617 Location: Nashville, TN, USA	He and I work together.  We were just down drinking coffee and talking about running it again, but adding a mega Gargant and an Imperator. Since he's getting laid off at the end of the week, we might be able to manage it. _________________ Neal
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GlynG	Post subject: Advice on UK Customs?... (Please Help!) Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:22 am
Brood Brother Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2003 7:27 pm Posts: 5602 Location: Bristol	I could really do with some advice on how UK customs works and whether the following sounds fair - basically I recently placed an order with US mail order to get hold of a load of old epic bits before they stopped selling them. I bought a fair amount of stuff ? approximately 550 bits but since they were small and light I didn?t expect to have to pay too much. I also knew it would be expensive to post over but I wasn?t expecting to have to pay customs charges on top, and certainly not to the level of fees their asking for ? I?ve received a letter asking for an extra ?97 ($181 for you americans out there) in customs charges! ! Apparantly thats made up of ?customs vat? of ?84.27 and ?clearance fee? of ?13.50. Is that a mistake, have they overcharged me or is that what I should expect to pay? If thats right then why is it so much, is it based on the value of the goods, the weight or a combination of the two? What can I do about it now (I really can?t afford to pay the fees), the letter says if they are not paid by 21 days the item will get posted back to the sender ? could I do that and ask US mail order for the money I paid for the order back maybe? Or if its due to weight could I ask them to post it over in several small parcels rather than one big one? Would that help?... Anyone else in the UK ordered US before, did this happen to you too? Thanks in advance for any help or replies (quite stressed and not sure what to do about it) Glyn
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Sam Coles	Post subject: Advice on UK Customs?... (Please Help!) Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:29 am
Brood Brother Joined: Sun Jan 25, 2004 4:37 pm Posts: 44 Location: Berkshire, England	VAT, 17.5% Payable if the goods are worth more than ?18. ?480?? Ouch, that's not some small order you made! _________________ -Sam aka Garcon
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GlynG	Post subject: Advice on UK Customs?... (Please Help!) Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:40 am
Brood Brother Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2003 7:27 pm Posts: 5602 Location: Bristol	Ah... I actually work with GW and we get a certain discount on own products, I really can't talk about it but the price I paid was a reasonable bit less than it would have cost me otherwise. Thats how I was able to afford to by so much basically, accept I'm now wondering how much they declared the stuff to be worth on the customs forms - would they have put the value I paid for it? Or the value it'd cost normally?... Glyn
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Binky	Post subject: Advice on UK Customs?... (Please Help!) Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 10:22 am
Brood Brother Joined: Mon Feb 09, 2004 6:00 pm Posts: 12	You should pay VAT at 17.5% plus import duty which is probably about 2.5% (it varies between different things), this would be paid on the whole amount of the order including postage. Then there's the administration charge, which seems fairly high in this case. I would have thought they should have declared the value you paid rather than the actual value. Hopefully that will give you some idea as to whether what you've been charged is correct, I believe there's some sort of appeal system if you believe you have been overcharged.
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Jimbo

Post subject: Advice on UK Customs?... (Please Help!) Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:25 am

Brood Brother Joined: Fri Feb 14, 2003 11:01 pm Posts: 3495 Location: Wessex

You may find these links useful http://www.hmce.gov.uk/public/shopping/shopping.htm http://www.hmce.gov.uk/forms/notices/143.htm#P180_11274 Duty is charged on the price paid for the goods including any local sales taxes plus postage, packing and insurance costs. This is charged as a percentage of the value. The percentage varies depending on the type of goods and their country of origin. Basically you can query the charge, but from the sounds of it it might not do much good. Of course GW US may accept the order back. I would have thought they should have declared the value you paid rather than the actual value. Duty is charged as a percentage of the actual value the goods are worth, not what you paid for them, as gifts are subject to duty as well and you generally don't pay for them! _________________ Jimbo Felix's Gaming Pages Felix's Gaming Pages Blog Almost Always Right...

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