I am a big fan of buying cheap "job lots" of Epic models. In a recent hoard I purchased only for scenery and SM models, a few of the below came in the collection. What are they? The small one on the right appear to be Chaos squats or something, and the one in the middle looks like a dreadnaught from Space Crusade. The far left model looks like some sort of surfer riding on the back of a mutant manta ray with a gun emplacement on its back!

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They're all from the original Chaos sprue. EDIT - unless the Dreadnought was from the Stompers set?

Disc Rider of Tzeentch, Chaos Dreadnought (based on the one in Space Crusade) and a Chaos Squat.

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You're on the right track. They're old Chaos plastics - Tzeentchian CSM on disk, Chaos Dreadnought and Chaos Squat.

Ah ok. Thanks guys I will get them all counted out and put them on the trade board. I also have a few of these but I think they are Pre-heresy dreads?

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From the Stompers sprue.

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Hmm. Will maybe make up a house rule for them.....

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They're dreadnoughts, plain and simple.
if you play EA then there's plenty of lists with venerable dreads for which those make a handy distinction for.

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I do indeed play EA. Venerable dreads is the way forward for them. Thanks guys!

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Yeah I got 16 of each style so as you can tell, I kinda feel passionate about them

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Off topic jimmyzimms but.... I love Dreads as well. I was a long time 40K player and bought a load of epic stuff when SM2 was out but never played it. I sold the 40k stuff 15 years ago, then when I was clearing my folks house found the SM2 stuff. So me and a few guys who are local started to play EA and SM2. We now only do EA. I felt the dreads were undervalued, but the 3+ save helps.

I will go search for some venerable dread stats to include in future games.

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Yeah check out Iron Hands, Space Wolves, Iron warriors, Blood Angels, and IIRC Siege Assault (aka Minotaurs) lists for dread variations

cheers

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For reference, you can see the Stompers sprue here:

http://www.solegends.com/citcat1995-6/c ... 168-01.htm

Including the Chaos and SM Dreads...

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thanks for your assistance folks!

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Yes, good ID guys, ... And Yes, for rules , as JZ said, use the Dreads as Dreads. Use the Flying Discs as Havocs/Hvy Wpns and the Chaos Squats as CSMs ...

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