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A COUPLE OF QUERIES

 Post subject: A COUPLE OF QUERIES
PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:53 am 
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Hi chaps,

I would be very grateful for your help in resolving a couple of queries came up in our Epic 'Cityscape' game last night.

First, an Ork Lander came in on an Air Assault order to attack some Imperial Guard Siege troops. When the Orks jumped out, we had some difficulty working out how far they should move. Do they (a) move just 5cms or (b) have a full 15cms move ? In addition, some of the infantry were infiltrators. Assuming the answer to the above question is 5cm, do they get to move twice (ie 10cm) because they are infiltrators, or does their infiltrator ability only come into play when thy receive a charge move (ie. not disembarking from landers) ?

Second, the Orks shot at an Imperial tank formation which was poking its nose round a building (the Orks could only see a part of one tank, the rest of the formation was hidden out of sight). The Orks used a barrage weapon to do this, with a strength of two templates. Can the orks only target the tank they can see (ie. only use one template, centre it on the tank they can see with the possibility of clipping something round the corner) or, as this is a barrage weapon, do the normal barrage rules apply (ie. they can use both templates and have to cover as many tanks as they can) ? Our brains hurt...

Despite the above, we are enjoying playing with a dense city environment and find that it completely changes how we play. It really emphasises the role of scouts (who can block the limited avenues of approach).

Many thanks,


Phil


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 Post subject: Re: A COUPLE OF QUERIES
PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:18 pm 
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Air Assualts: all troops get a 5cm disembark move during an air assault, UNLESS they are equipped with jump packs in which case they can go 15cm. It's a good question about infiltrator though...I can't answer that one for definite.

Barrage weapons: Yep! They can see round corners! So long as the first template is in line of sight of the firing unit (discounting indirect fire weapons obviously) that next template can go out of LoS, it's a ded sneaky trick that I use regularlyl when my mates think they can hide from my Supa Stompa's or Gargants! That said though there is some bone of contention amongst our gaming group as to whether or not those units out of LoS have a -1 to hit modifier applied to them. Being the one with the Stompa's I can't find anything in the Rules as Written (RaW) that says they're not (it's very hard to hide from an explosion!), but, said gaming group being on the recieving end of something that already feels a tad wrong want a -1 to apply.

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 Post subject: Re: A COUPLE OF QUERIES
PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:43 pm 
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Many thanks for the guidance. I must admit that I was with the Orks last night so the pressure was on to get as much from these situations as possible !!

The shooting round corners situation seemed wrong to us as well (although the target tank unit was a menace and needed some serious blast marker attention...).

I suppose the answer is to consider the actual position of men/tanks as a little more abstract than they are shown on the table. Until I am on the receiving end of course...

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