We have a game going at the moment and some interesting questions came up.

I will be short and sweet:

1. Is a counter charge counted as a move?
2. Do you gain the extra 5cm if you are counter charging on a road?
3. Can you overwatch a counter charge?

Thanks in advance.

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1 - Yes
2 - Don't think so, the extra 5cm rule talks about action tests etc. IIRC
3 - Yeah, I reckon so

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Also, how do the three pertain to consolidation moves?

Morgan Vening

No.
This is specifically referred to in the FAQ under section 1.12.4 Counter Charges.
The Move referred to in the OW rule refers to moves made as part of an action, as described in 1.7

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1. They are really a special case. Yes in some ways, no in others.

2. I'd say no. The rule uses the term "entire move" which, to me, implies a normal move, e.g. 15cm for infantry. However, it's not clear and there could be good arguments the other way.

3. No, as Onyx pointed out.

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Morgan: For consistency's sake, I think you have to say that all consolidation moves count as normal moves. While there might be some wiggle room about whether consolidation is a "normal" move in the basic consolidation rules, in the Eldar's case, with Hit and Run, I don't think there can be any good justification for not counting the consolidation as a full normal move. Also, the WE boarding rules for consolidation are built on the same principals as normal moves.

If someone has good counterarguments, though, I'm open to them.

Agreed with Neal.
Further point, 'Withdrawal' is a move, so can be shot by OW, gains 5cm on roads and can be used to board air transports without incurring the 'consolidation' penalty.

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